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post #1261 of 1319
Thanks fer. I already bought the aluminium sheet. I will try to practice with it on some spare metal, see how it goes and then reconsider if I want to drill holes or perforate the top smile.gif.

Those CPU coolers man.. I second Seban's comment that you should open a museum of discontinued CPU coolers that kick ass - I can't find either the AXP-100R or the NT-01 Pro in stores anywhere in Denmark biggrin.gif.
post #1262 of 1319
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Thanks fer. I already bought the aluminium sheet. I will try to practice with it on some spare metal, see how it goes and then reconsider if I want to drill holes or perforate the top smile.gif.

Those CPU coolers man.. I second Seban's comment that you should open a museum of discontinued CPU coolers that kick ass - I can't find either the AXP-100R or the NT-01 Pro in stores anywhere in Denmark biggrin.gif.

Greek market

http://www.visionstudio.gr/prodinfo.asp?id=55109&cat=7
post #1263 of 1319
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Noctua lists the L12 as compatible with the ASUS Z270i

For big shuriken 2, see this detailed picture of the dimensions. With these dimensions, it clears the Vengeance LPX low profile memory sticks (34mm) and since heatsinks are roughly the same size and positioning on the z270i, I can't see the problem with compatibility there. Note that 93mm is pretty much equal to the intel no-fly zone above the CPU socket, which both the C7 and L9i aghere to. Since i can confirm that the C7 doesn't obstruct the Z270i in terms of footprint, the Big Shuriken will not either - it has the height to clear the DIMM's and heatsinks, and it has the footprint the stay within the no-fly zone for the core part of the heatsink.

I'll make sure to see if it fits when I change CPU cooler some time during next 4 weeks. Need shipment of mobo mosfets and some new fans and fan grills for further mods to arrive before I make my mods. It takes a long time to dismantle the TU100 smile.gif. And besides, I might need some new hole saws to make the mods (2x A8's in the top).

Replacing the PSU? Well by all means, go mod! biggrin.gif

I think the placement of the PSU is the single biggest design flaw of the TU100/TU200 series of cases. It's astonishingly bad, in my opinion. It creates heatpockets around the CPU socket and in the case of the TU200, it forces CPU compatability to super bad 80mm. Considering the size of that case, that's almost criminal in my opinion.

In the TU100, an SFX psu doesn't really fit any other places, unless you fundamentally change the design (e.g. by laying the case down, so to speak: removing the front aluminium opening the unused compartment, making mobo lie horizontal, moving PSU to the side of the case fan hovering over DIMM's and mounting case fans on other panels).

In short, I think a lot has happened with ITX case design, I highly doubt we will ever see a design with PSU so close to the CPU again. It's just not a good design option: it pretty much forces the average user to low-end aircooled systems or water-cooled CPU's, which scares away a lot of customers.

Funny, Noctua L12 was the first cooler I've tried. I could not fix the back plate because some parts could be destroyed and the heat sink has been in the way. Having read the instruction just now which was not in the package the problem was that the back plate is not used at all but instead just 4 screws called NM-IBT3. Unfortunately I've returned the cooler already but will re-order it to give it a another try.
The L12 seems to be a good cooler.

https://www.computerbase.de/2013-05/7-top-blow-kuehler-test/5/

Noctua offers help if you run into problems.

http://noctua.at/en/mainboard/Asus_ROG_Strix_Z270I_Gaming
post #1264 of 1319
Yeah, the z270i is actually an awful motherboard, compatability wise. I know exactly what problem you're talkinga bout. A lot of backplates are incompatible wiht the Z270i, including my cryorig C7 backplate. It does include a nut/washer solution, but those might (if you're not careful) apply unevenly, resulting in a poorly mounted CPU cooler and worse temps. Here's my ghetto fix:

36: So obviously, given the interference with the bottom chips, I must ghetto-mod the backplate. Swiss army knife job.

Basically a swiss army knife job. No problem for plastic backplates, but metal backplates and you're looking at a bigger problem.
Edited by ihateolives - 4/7/17 at 3:13am
post #1265 of 1319
Today I replaced the noctua cooler in my second TU-100 with the Thermalright AXP-100R. Was planing it long time ago.
Plenty of room in the case.

post #1266 of 1319
Say what again? Second? Wow. That is true TU-100 patriotism. How well is it performing, what temps you getting with that cooler? My guess is they are going to be worse than your Silverstone cooler, but please correct me if I am wrong.
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post #1267 of 1319
Will do the stress test... of my second TU-100 biggrin.gif an other day. The cooler makes it job well. The installed CPU is the 4670k, it will be replaced with the 4790k in the near future.
Edited by fer9001 - 4/7/17 at 1:19pm
post #1268 of 1319
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Originally Posted by ihateolives View Post

Thanks fer. I already bought the aluminium sheet. I will try to practice with it on some spare metal, see how it goes and then reconsider if I want to drill holes or perforate the top smile.gif.

Those CPU coolers man.. I second Seban's comment that you should open a museum of discontinued CPU coolers that kick ass - I can't find either the AXP-100R or the NT-01 Pro in stores anywhere in Denmark biggrin.gif.

Maybe you can order here. Not that far away from your location.

https://geizhals.de/thermalright-axp-100rh-100700566-a1586415.html?t=alle&plz=&va=b&vl=de&hloc=de&v=l&togglecountry=set#filterform
https://geizhals.de/?fs=Thermalright+AXP&in=


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Originally Posted by ihateolives View Post

Yeah, the z270i is actually an awful motherboard, compatability wise. I know exactly what problem you're talkinga bout. A lot of backplates are incompatible wiht the Z270i, including my cryorig C7 backplate. It does include a nut/washer solution, but those might (if you're not careful) apply unevenly, resulting in a poorly mounted CPU cooler and worse temps. Here's my ghetto fix:

Basically a swiss army knife job. No problem for plastic backplates, but metal backplates and you're looking at a bigger problem.

So how did you manage to fit the Cryorig back plate exactly? Seems like you trimmed it with a saw or file.
To sum it up a re-installation with nuts-washers will not be the solution. Thank you for the hint. I think I will contact Noctua next week and ask if they will make a new cpu cooler for Asus Z20i or if they have other suggestions. It's too time consuming for my taste to try various coolers. And I don't want to damage my hardware.
Unfortunately there is no cooler mounting hole in the motherboard tray and I don't like to saw a hole now. Otherwise my bench table could serve as an interim solution.

Update: Now that I've got your ghetto-mod I'll try the NH-L12 again and will saw out the back plate to make space for the protruding parts.
Edited by Zero Clocker - 4/8/17 at 5:39am
post #1269 of 1319
The picture I sent is of the C7 backplate. I cut the conflicting part of it away with a swiss army knife. In other words, it's very easy and doesn't require anything else than a sharp knife.

The AXP-100RH I can find, no problem, but the AXP-100R is not easily avaiable in my local markets. And the difference is big: one is compatible with the TU100 (100R), the other isn't (100RH). Besides, I have a decent arraw of options availablke (LP53, C7 and Big SDhuriken 2) that I haven't fully tested yet.

Regarding the L12, I'm unfamiliar with the backplate of that CPU cooler. If it's made of plastic, it's EASY to ghetto mod it. If it's made of metal, you'll have a much harder tiem - that will require a file (best case) or a dremeel (worst case).
Edited by ihateolives - 4/8/17 at 6:17am
post #1270 of 1319
Quick update on the Z270i and Big Shuriken 2: confirmed fit by random reddit user.

I've got a new idea for a simple mod: simply drilling a few screw holes for the PSU, moving it effectively 1-1.5cm more towards the edge of the case and using one of the spare PCIE brackets bent into a straight plate to cover up the hole that'll come by scooting over the PSU.

Doing this increases CPU clearance to about 70-75mm, enabling me to use a Big Shuriken 2. I have modded my Big Shuriken 2 to be compatible with a 140mm fan with 120mm mounting holes, like the XT140 or Raijintek Aeolus Alpha (by using a file and a cutter to cut off the extending fin-pieces running above the edges of the stock 120mm fan).

I've also grabbed a 120mm to 140mm fan adaptor for the case fan and ordered an ML140 to see if I can get some better airflow going into my case. I'm expecting these two simple improvements to give me a big boost in temperature overhead.

So many mods for this little case biggrin.gif
Edited by ihateolives - 4/8/17 at 3:21pm
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