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[TT] MGS: Ground Zero capped at 60 FPS

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Not a big deal for me. Fox Engine looks amazing, but I wasn't expected 96-120 FPS on my single 970 @ 1440p anyway
 
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Thought XB1 buttons for KB/M bugs me...
I don't think that's how it was meant. I think he meant it supports both.
 
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Originally Posted by Raven Dizzle View Post

I don't think that's how it was meant. I think he meant it supports both.
^^^^
 
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60 fps is fine for these types of games so I have no problem.
 
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Why. What possible legitimate reason is there to impose an FPS cap in a game. There are basically only two reasons I can think of:

1. The developers are idiots and tied systems to FPS, rather than an independent clock.
2. The FPS is capped for some "artistic" reason (i.e. The Evil Within)

Both of these reasons are dumb. 60fps is better than 30, but it's still not great. People with 120hz screens will notice the lower FPS, and those with 144hz screens WILL get screen tearing. I have been using two 144hz screens for over a year now, and honestly, my minimum acceptable FPS is now 72. Anything lower is just horrible.
 
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144Hz user here.
So glad they went for 60 instead of 30.
No complains here, support for 144FPS would be nice but just running a MGS game at 60 is such a nice thing I couldn't go back to PS2 MGS2/3 after playing MGS2 on PC and MGS2/3 HD remakes.
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Originally Posted by Leopard2lx View Post

Definitely not getting this. I was hoping to be locked at 30 fps or even 24 fps for a more "cinematic" experience... and now this?
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this.

i require a cinematic 24fps or i'm not buying it.

lazy devs not willing to optimize is what gives us these horrible 60fps games.

nice try konami you're not pulling the wool over this guys eyes.
 
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Originally Posted by Master__Shake View Post

this.

i require a cinematic 24fps or i'm not buying it.

lazy devs not willing to optimize is what gives us these horrible 60fps games.

nice try konami you're not pulling the wool over this guys eyes.
Yeah...not for nothing guys, but the Ubisoft jokes really only apply to Ubisoft threads...and stopped being funny after the firs 12 thousand.
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Originally Posted by WhiteCrane View Post

Can we see over 60 fps?
Yes. some people can.
 
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Originally Posted by doomlord52 View Post

Why. What possible legitimate reason is there to impose an FPS cap in a game. There are basically only two reasons I can think of:

1. The developers are idiots and tied systems to FPS, rather than an independent clock.
2. The FPS is capped for some "artistic" reason (i.e. The Evil Within)

Both of these reasons are dumb. 60fps is better than 30, but it's still not great. People with 120hz screens will notice the lower FPS, and those with 144hz screens WILL get screen tearing. I have been using two 144hz screens for over a year now, and honestly, my minimum acceptable FPS is now 72. Anything lower is just horrible.
Sometimes an fps limit helps with other things in the game, such as physics.
 
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Originally Posted by axiumone View Post

Sometimes an fps limit helps with other things in the game, such as physics.
Isn't that engine dependent sometimes? And not the developers 'choice'.
 
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Originally Posted by TheMentalist View Post

Isn't that engine dependent sometimes? And not the developers 'choice'.
Probably, but if you developed a game for 4 consoles and optimized the physics engine to run best with a 30-60fps cap. Would you rewrite the whole engine just to port the game to one more platform?

Don't get me wrong, I'd love for it to no fps cap, but 60fps is not outrageous. If it was capped at 30... that's a different story.
 
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I feel like if this was another company people would be up in arms about this? Just sayin'

I'm glad to see this coming to PC and I let off a great sigh of relief now knowing the cap is my monitor's limit anyways.. Can't wait for this game
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Originally Posted by axiumone View Post

Probably, but if you developed a game for 4 consoles and optimized the physics engine to run best with a 30-60fps cap. Would you rewrite the whole engine just to port the game to one more platform?

Don't get me wrong, I'd love for it to no fps cap, but 60fps is not outrageous. If it was capped at 30... that's a different story.
Yeah true. No cap is better than 60 and then again 60 is much better than 30.
For MGS 60 will be ok for me.
 
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Originally Posted by Strileckifunk View Post

Not a big deal for me. Fox Engine looks amazing, but I wasn't expected 96-120 FPS on my single 970 @ 1440p anyway
I was
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Originally Posted by doomlord52 View Post

Why. What possible legitimate reason is there to impose an FPS cap in a game. There are basically only two reasons I can think of:

1. The developers are idiots and tied systems to FPS, rather than an independent clock.
2. The FPS is capped for some "artistic" reason (i.e. The Evil Within)

Both of these reasons are dumb. 60fps is better than 30, but it's still not great. People with 120hz screens will notice the lower FPS, and those with 144hz screens WILL get screen tearing. I have been using two 144hz screens for over a year now, and honestly, my minimum acceptable FPS is now 72. Anything lower is just horrible.
agreed
 
#26 ·
Wow, this sucks. What's the point? There's no benefit to limiting the FPS, everyone is worse off.
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Originally Posted by axiumone View Post

Sometimes an fps limit helps with other things in the game, such as physics.
Yeah, if they are tied to the FPS, but a properly coded engine wouldn't tie physics to the frame rate. Tons of game engines have no issues with framerates above or below their target.
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Originally Posted by Raven Dizzle View Post

This doesn't bother me at all. I mean, some people (totalbiscuit) will be butthurt over it, but meh. Biscuits an idiot IMO.
TotalBiscuit is one of the few popular game reviewers who complains when developers pull stuff like this. It's only a good thing that he "gets butthurt".
 
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