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I have not ran it with GTs, but at same noise level I would expect similar performance. Much depends on which GT you are talking about.
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Does the Rev. A with TY-147 perform better than Rev. A with TY-147A? Since the TY-147 spins at higher RPM until about 90% PWM, but at 90% the difference is very small (according to doyll's graphs).
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Does the Rev. A with TY-147 perform better than Rev. A with TY-147A? Since the TY-147 spins at higher RPM until about 90% PWM, but at 90% the difference is very small (according to doyll's graphs).
The TY-147 fan is no longer being produced. It was replaced by the TY-147A.
They both perform the same, but have different PWM signal to rpm curves.
Here is a graph of TY-14x series fans PWM to rpm curves
http://www.overclock.net/t/1491876/ways-to-better-cooling-airflow-cooler-fan-data/20_20#post_23348844
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Originally Posted by doyll View Post

The TY-147 fan is no longer being produced. It was replaced by the TY-147A.
They both perform the same, but have different PWM signal to rpm curves.
Here is a graph of TY-14x series fans PWM to rpm curves
http://www.overclock.net/t/1491876/ways-to-better-cooling-airflow-cooler-fan-data/20_20#post_23348844

The Rev. A sold on amazon by Nan's includes TY-147 (not A). That's what they told me. The higher RPM of the TY-147 at the same PWM doesn't mean it performs better than the TY-147A?
post #165 of 218
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The Rev. A sold on amazon by Nan's includes TY-147 (not A). That's what they told me. The higher RPM of the TY-147 at the same PWM doesn't mean it performs better than the TY-147A?
I guess you need your eyes checked.
They both perform the same, but have different PWM signal to rpm curves.
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Same performance means they have same airflow, pressure and sound at same rpm.

Having a different PWM to rpm curve does not change performance, only the fan speed at same PWM signal is changed.

PWM signal rate to temperature is adjustable in bios on most motherboards..

All Thermalright did was lower the idle and intermediate rpm so fan would run quieter without user needed to adjust the PWM to temperature curve. thumb.gifbiggrin.gif
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I have not ran it with GTs, but at same noise level I would expect similar performance. Much depends on which GT you are talking about.

They are AP-15, I discovered at some point I bought 9 of them.
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They are AP-15, I discovered at some point I bought 9 of them.
LOL. Great fans!
OCN member ehume (Ed Hume) tested both TY-140 and AP-15 ( and many many other fans) on a Megahalems cooler. Red is temp and blue is dBA. AP-15 is 1c cooler but 3dBA lound on the Megahaems.

http://www.vortez.net/articles_pages/120mm_and_140mm_fan_comparison,22.html:D

AP-14 (1355rpm) is 22.5dBA & 46.8c
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Expect you will like the TS 140 - one of the best single tower coolers. If not, then doyll will refund your money. biggrin.gif

I wonder if/when TR will release those 800rpm fans separately. And/or release an all black version of the TY-147A....a 147B?

Hi, My True Spirit BW 140 rev. A, finally arrived, but unfortunately, it performs worse than my old Hyper 212+ (with double fan) for about 4 °C. I installed it correctly, 2 times, using the same thermal compound (Arctic MX-4), It may be defective?

Help, please...
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Originally Posted by jazh23 View Post

Hi, My True Spirit BW 140 rev. A, finally arrived, but unfortunately, it performs worse than my old Hyper 212+ (with double fan) for about 4 °C. I installed it correctly, 2 times, using the same thermal compound (Arctic MX-4), It may be defective?

Help, please...
There is always the possibility of a defective cooler, but defective coolers are almost as rare as hen's teeth, so no offense but my guess is something in your system build is the problem, or maybe how you have assembled things.

Everything is the same? All you have done is change coolers?


What does the TIM print look like?
A poor TIM print is usually the result of mounting kit not being installed properly or TIM not being applied properly.
Is fan functioning properly?
Is fan spinning fast enough to flow enough air?
Is that air flowing in the right direction?

I've seen very skilled builders goof up a mounting kit installation and put the fan on the wrong direction, so please don't think I'm picking on you for asking such basic questions. thumb.gif
I almost put one together not too long ago without removing the plastic film on bottom of cooler base. tongue.gif
post #170 of 218
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Originally Posted by doyll View Post

There is always the possibility of a defective cooler, but defective coolers are almost as rare as hen's teeth, so no offense but my guess is something in your system build is the problem, or maybe how you have assembled things.

Everything is the same? All you have done is change coolers?


What does the TIM print look like?
A poor TIM print is usually the result of mounting kit not being installed properly or TIM not being applied properly.
Is fan functioning properly?
Is fan spinning fast enough to flow enough air?
Is that air flowing in the right direction?

I've seen very skilled builders goof up a mounting kit installation and put the fan on the wrong direction, so please don't think I'm picking on you for asking such basic questions. thumb.gif
I almost put one together not too long ago without removing the plastic film on bottom of cooler base. tongue.gif

First, thanks for your prompt response...

1. Yes, Everything is the same, even the thermal compound (artic mx-4).
2. The TIM print look perfect, It is spread evenly.
3. The fan spins between 900 and 1300 rpm.
4. Yes, it's in the right direction, pushing air into the cooler

I did not try again, because I can't buy a good thermal coumpound here in my country, so I installed the Hyper 212+, because performs a little better.

With an ambient temperature of 26 °C and the i5-4670K to 4.0GHz with 1.15V, these are the results:


Hyper 212+ (dual fan):
idle:34 ºC
Aida64 Test: 52 ºC
Linx64: 63 ºC

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True Spirit 140 BW rev. a, Fan model:TY-TR147
idle:38 ºC
Aida64 Test: 56 ºC
Linx64: 67 ºC


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Edited by jazh23 - 2/3/16 at 12:02pm
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