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You will get no argument from me about the colors. The red frame isn't bad in some builds, but the orange doesn't match much of any build, and the red / orange combo is even worse.

I have been temped to paint a couple all black. biggrin.gif


That would be great, I hope you upload the images...
post #192 of 218
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I added more to my last post about your cooling issue. thumb.gif
post #193 of 218
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A lot like this:


The above is the TY-140B that comes with new Macho Direct cooler. wink.gif
post #194 of 218
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A lot like this:


The above is the TY-140B that comes with new Macho Direct cooler. wink.gif


But I don't like that it has a top speed of 800 rpm...

If the problem was the air flow into the case, why the Hyper 212+ works well?

I wonder, Tuniq TX4 > Arctic MX-4? Is there some better thermal compound out there?
post #195 of 218
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But I don't like that it has a top speed of 800 rpm...

If the problem was the air flow into the case, why the Hyper 212+ works well?

I wonder, Tuniq TX4 > Arctic MX-4? Is there some better thermal compound out there?
Top speed of 800rpm. No idea what you are talking about.
TY-14x series are almost all 1300rpm fans. All newer ones that are PWM are 300-1300rpm .. including the above TY-140B.

The basics behind the TY-14x fan model code is the 14 was for 140mm and the last number was for color. TH-140 was tan/gray, TY-143 red/orange, TY-147 black/white, etc. The 3rd number also covered the differences in motor. TY-147A is same as TY-147 but 300-1300rpm instead of older 550-1300rpm(spec says something like 800rpm idle, but they idle at 500-550rpm) TY-143 also idle down to 550-600rpm. Early on the TY-141 was released in almost same colors as TY-140 but has a different blade design. In 20-20 hindsight Thermalright told me they wish they and used a different coding system, but it is what it is. Always easy to look back and see how doing it different may have been better.
post #196 of 218
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Originally Posted by doyll View Post

Top speed of 800rpm. No idea what you are talking about.
TY-14x series are almost all 1300rpm fans. All newer ones that are PWM are 300-1300rpm .. including the above TY-140B.

The basics behind the TY-14x fan model code is the 14 was for 140mm and the last number was for color. TH-140 was tan/gray, TY-143 red/orange, TY-147 black/white, etc. The 3rd number also covered the differences in motor. TY-147A is same as TY-147 but 300-1300rpm instead of older 550-1300rpm(spec says something like 800rpm idle, but they idle at 500-550rpm) TY-143 also idle down to 550-600rpm. Early on the TY-141 was released in almost same colors as TY-140 but has a different blade design. In 20-20 hindsight Thermalright told me they wish they and used a different coding system, but it is what it is. Always easy to look back and see how doing it different may have been better.



and you didn't answer if Tuniq TX4 > Arctic MX-4? Is there some better thermal compound out there?
post #197 of 218
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If the problem was the air flow into the case, why the Hyper 212+ works well?

I wonder, Tuniq TX4 > Arctic MX-4? Is there some better thermal compound out there?
You seem to be confusing 'air flow into the case' with how the air is flowing through the case. Have you read "Ways to Better Cooling" post #5? It explains the difference.

Read post #13 "TIM (Thermal Interface Material), How Good Should We Go?"

There is generally much more to be gained by optimizing and tuning case airflow than can be gained by changing thermal pastes.
post #198 of 218
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Originally Posted by doyll View Post

You seem to be confusing 'air flow into the case' with how the air is flowing through the case. Have you read "Ways to Better Cooling" post #5? It explains the difference.

Read post #13 "TIM (Thermal Interface Material), How Good Should We Go?"

There is generally much more to be gained by optimizing and tuning case airflow than can be gained by changing thermal pastes.

Thanks, I'll read it... thumb.gif
post #199 of 218
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and you didn't answer if Tuniq TX4 > Arctic MX-4? Is there some better thermal compound out there?
Let me count the ways. doh.gifbiggrin.gif
Macho Direct, is not the same the cooler you show with the TY-142 fan, not the TY-140B fan. wink.gif

I answered your TIM question in last post.
post #200 of 218
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TY-142 is not a PWM fan either. It is a 3-pin version made only for the cooler you posted picture to.
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