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post #1131 of 2139
Hoping to find one of these cheap on black Friday biggrin.gif
    
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post #1132 of 2139
Just an fyi, fallout 4 is sexy on the i5, 16gb ram and a 1tb 840 evo.

I've put in 32 hours as of today and while I wear headphones, I've checked for ramping fans or overly hot temps.
post #1133 of 2139
Hi folks, I'm new to this thread but spent hours reading half of all the previous posts so guess I'm half knowledgable.

I've got a base model in May thought I'd never game again and leave it in the living room for a good looking HTPC.

Normally i use my new xps13 for productivity and browsing.

Then old friends took me back playing WoW so I have to bring the alpha on my desk since that's the only thing I have with dedicated graphic card. its 860m handled the game suprisingly well, tho the ram and hdd were pain in the ass.

I planned build a gaming machine but finally put it off since i couldn't workout a good itx solution but don't want a tower even a mid tower.

I decided to wait for deals on alienware laptop, upgraded my alpha with 250g evo850 and 8 gb ram( $60 vs $35 for 4gb, i went with better $ per gb) thought i can put these on the laptop once i got it. Then i discovered this site and knew that I can actually upgrade the cpu.

now i'm thinking about upgrade my alpha rather than buying another laptop for budget reason, a cpu cost me Aus$170-$500 that's nothing compared to a alienware laptop with a decent cpu nowadays.

the 860m won't last long , after maybe one year or so I definitely need better so my plan is , to upgrade to a 4690k/4790k, play until 860m needs retire then put back the crap cpu and hdd as the HTPC it was, build another with the ssd and 4690k I've got and some cheap b85 with quality.

i know that 4690k/4790k with 88w TDP will be downclocked as people say, but many of those said only when it's at full load. so i'm wondering what if i'm only running WoW, some webpage and light program? should i expect its full potential at 3.9/4.4gh or down to 3.0ish?

Would it help if I shut down two cores of the cpu to help reduce the load/power needs therefore reach a high frequency, and is this possible in bios or by software? if that's possible then 4690k has better value for me but 4790k gives me instant 4.4g tbed clockspeed and other overkilled features for me.
post #1134 of 2139
Wow , I did some google and learned shut down the cores would not do much help for saving the bills aka power consumtion of the cpu so had to rule out anything with a TDP over 65W.

just got my 4790T chip checked out . found a brit posting it on ebay.us for 188.88 gbp inc. shipping, worked out to be usd290 or aud420, i think i got a good deal.

I'm still exciting !

pound for pound i believe i3 4170 is the best for most people, and it's cheap and popular so easy to get rib of if you wanna upgrade further.

I think I made an impulse buy out there, as 4170 at aud 170/us 120 would suits my WoW needs for at least one year.
post #1135 of 2139
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Originally Posted by Pandatsu View Post

Wow , I did some google and learned shut down the cores would not do much help for saving the bills aka power consumtion of the cpu so had to rule out anything with a TDP over 65W.

just got my 4790T chip checked out . found a brit posting it on ebay.us for 188.88 gbp inc. shipping, worked out to be usd290 or aud420, i think i got a good deal.

I'm still exciting !

pound for pound i believe i3 4170 is the best for most people, and it's cheap and popular so easy to get rib of if you wanna upgrade further.

I think I made an impulse buy out there, as 4170 at aud 170/us 120 would suits my WoW needs for at least one year.
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Originally Posted by aj654987 View Post

Im assuming this is just a seller who swaps out the CPU then resells the unit for profit?

Either way, there are 2 seperate issues with the 88 watt Intel Core i7-4790K processor - 4.0GHz with TURBO BOOST to 4.4GHz.

1. thermal throttling - the CPU/motherboard will self throttle the speed to keep temperatures within spec. The cooler was designed for a 35 watt CPU

2. power throttling - again, the motherboard and extrnal cpu was designed for a 35 watt cpu. People have had some success using 55 watt cpu's but I am betting it cant provide the full 88 watt


bottom line: it will never hit the 4-4.4 ghz advertised speeds. The bios also does not have any ability to select the multiplier so the K series is pointless. It makes sense the bios wouldnt have the option as any K series CPU is outside of the designed wattage anyways.
why no love for the 4370?
post #1136 of 2139
imo 4170 is too good for the money,

if 4170 isn't enough for you, no way 4370 will ,

if 4170 is enough, i will go with 4170 + bottle of decent cheap wine+ prime steak over 4370, unless i'm vegan
post #1137 of 2139
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Originally Posted by ramonrdz1986 View Post


why no love for the 4370?


Someone earlier in the thread was saying the 4370 was giving them over heating problems while others confirmed the 4170 was working well, that was enough to convince me to get the 4170.

There is about a $20-30 difference for minimal performance gain. The differences are:

100mhz higher
4mb cache vs 3mb cache
4600 vs 4400 graphics


as far as I can tell the graphics have the same number of pipelines with only a clockspeed difference so that shouldnt be affecting temperatures. I dont see how 100mhz could affect them either so my only guess is the cache?

Other than that, theres no other reason you CANT run the 4370, go for it and let us know how it goes. I think theres only one guy on here that tried it and had bad luck.

I delidded my 4170 and reapplied thermal paste, the stock cooler isnt that great, its all aluminum and painted, even the portion where it contacts the CPU is painted and its got ridges on it. You could probably really improve temps by removing the paint and lap the hell out of it to make it flat.
post #1138 of 2139
I have the i7 model with a SSD (I regret not just getting the i3 and upgrading things but I got a pretty decent deal but anyway), I'm thinking my next upgrade to be the processor to a 4790t. So just curious if people thought the 4770t is a significant of enough upgrade over the 4765t I have? Or should I upgrade the 8gb to 16gb instead? Or even go for buying a larger power supply and go crazy with a 4790k but am a bit unconfident that in it staying cool enough (so if anyone there's anyone with experience with that upgrade, let me know).

I'm hoping for a boost in both streaming while gaming and video editing.
Edited by Jonny eSports - 11/17/15 at 1:25pm
post #1139 of 2139
Hello, I purchased the Alpha at Best Buy last week. I immediately upgraded to a Sandisk 480GB SSD and added an 8GB Memory module. I'd like to upgrade the CPU. I see a ton of info in here on that subject but I'm looking for info on what i5 or i7 would be the best bang for the buck. I'm a little scared to put in an 85W CPU when Dell sells these with a 35W CPU.

Please help!!!
post #1140 of 2139
From what I understand, without buying a bigger power supply, it'll still run higher power demanding processors (like the 4790k) but will bottleneck them anyway. Hence why lots of people save the money and go for a t or s processor.
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