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post #1991 of 2154
Hey all, I've had my Alpha r1 for a year now and am still enjoying it. It was the base model i3. I currently have 16gb ram and a Sandisk Ultra II 480gb ssd in it. I got some Amazon gift cards so I just ordered the 4170 i3 and some Noctua NT-H1 (I finally ran out of Arctic 5 after years of the same tube) to swap in it. I'm hoping temps stay manageable with the higher wattage processor. Right now my GPU is OC'd to 135/655 and has been stable at that for nearly a year and temps usually never go above 81c (65-78 is normal during gameplay). With the new processor will I need to back my OC down due to power consumption?

Other than an external GPU, is there anything else to really push it further? I really just want it to last until next Spring/Summer when I plan to build a new rig and retire this to under my TV for Steam streaming and older games (though this fits so perfectly in my desk cubby, which is why it was moved to my desk when originally intended to be under the TV).

I see there is a custom vbios, but it sounds like fans turn into turbines and temps become an issue (which I am already going to be pushing with the 4170 and OCing the GPU). So I may just skip that unless highly recommended and I don't have to cut a window/vent to keep it cool.
post #1992 of 2154
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Originally Posted by washburn085 View Post

Hey all, I've had my Alpha r1 for a year now and am still enjoying it. It was the base model i3. I currently have 16gb ram and a Sandisk Ultra II 480gb ssd in it. I got some Amazon gift cards so I just ordered the 4170 i3 and some Noctua NT-H1 (I finally ran out of Arctic 5 after years of the same tube) to swap in it. I'm hoping temps stay manageable with the higher wattage processor. Right now my GPU is OC'd to 135/655 and has been stable at that for nearly a year and temps usually never go above 81c (65-78 is normal during gameplay). With the new processor will I need to back my OC down due to power consumption?

Other than an external GPU, is there anything else to really push it further? I really just want it to last until next Spring/Summer when I plan to build a new rig and retire this to under my TV for Steam streaming and older games (though this fits so perfectly in my desk cubby, which is why it was moved to my desk when originally intended to be under the TV).

I see there is a custom vbios, but it sounds like fans turn into turbines and temps become an issue (which I am already going to be pushing with the 4170 and OCing the GPU). So I may just skip that unless highly recommended and I don't have to cut a window/vent to keep it cool.

It will be fine without a vent if you don't tack on another +135 on the core with Afterburner. The vbios itself is = to a +200 in Afterburner, I was just squeezing as much performance out of it as I could.
post #1993 of 2154
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Originally Posted by washburn085 View Post

Hey all, I've had my Alpha r1 for a year now and am still enjoying it. It was the base model i3. I currently have 16gb ram and a Sandisk Ultra II 480gb ssd in it. I got some Amazon gift cards so I just ordered the 4170 i3 and some Noctua NT-H1 (I finally ran out of Arctic 5 after years of the same tube) to swap in it. I'm hoping temps stay manageable with the higher wattage processor. Right now my GPU is OC'd to 135/655 and has been stable at that for nearly a year and temps usually never go above 81c (65-78 is normal during gameplay). With the new processor will I need to back my OC down due to power consumption?

Other than an external GPU, is there anything else to really push it further? I really just want it to last until next Spring/Summer when I plan to build a new rig and retire this to under my TV for Steam streaming and older games (though this fits so perfectly in my desk cubby, which is why it was moved to my desk when originally intended to be under the TV).

I see there is a custom vbios, but it sounds like fans turn into turbines and temps become an issue (which I am already going to be pushing with the 4170 and OCing the GPU). So I may just skip that unless highly recommended and I don't have to cut a window/vent to keep it cool.
Temps are fine with the 4170, it won't ever throttle. I just upgraded from the 4170 to the 4590S and the 4590S never throttles either.
post #1994 of 2154
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Didn't turn out too bad...
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Never noticed any throttling, as far as I'm aware it's only the CPU that throttles back. I actually added Arctic Silver 5 to mine and added a vent in the top of the console so it doesn't get nearly as loud. Max temp I've hit is 83C with it.


That's not as bad as I thought to be honest. Good job. It could be improved with a light mesh to keep dust out. Hmm.

Do you know if the BIOS flash changes the default voltages at all? When I manually overclock with afterburner with the stock BIOS the heat and noise is much lower.
post #1995 of 2154
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Originally Posted by Madpacket View Post


That's not as bad as I thought to be honest. Good job. It could be improved with a light mesh to keep dust out. Hmm.

Do you know if the BIOS flash changes the default voltages at all? When I manually overclock with afterburner with the stock BIOS the heat and noise is much lower.

There is a slight voltage increase, you'll have to see BlindRage's original post as to what it was. I can vouch for it being rock stable as I completed all of Doom on High settings recently and that includes a further overclock with Afterburner.
post #1996 of 2154
Hey guys I just bought a Alpha r2 and it coming sooner or later, I just wanna ask is the 7200rpm hdd any good?
post #1997 of 2154
Slow to boot up ssd is much much faster
Fine for gaming though
post #1998 of 2154
It depends which games you play there are a few for which disk access does make a difference. My alpha with hdd was ok but its hard to give up ssd once you try it. Id say its a more imprtant upgrade than ram
post #1999 of 2154
I upgraded to the 4170 and fired up Skyrim. It usually stayed hammered at 60fps, however I noticed it dropping to 25-30 periodically. Hoping it is just temp spikes as the thermal paste flows and spreads a bit and will go away. I noticed it happened when more NPC's were in the vicinity of my character, so CPU workload.

If it persists, I guess that may be a power issue and back off the GPU OC in Afterburner. At 135/655 right now.

Edit: CPU temps are not going above 83c at load. GPU temps are at their normal 65-70c for this game. I tried bumping Afterburner from 0/0 to 135/554, to 135/601, then back to 135/655. The FPS is still dropping down to 30-45 when lots of NPC's are on screen, whereas with the stock 4130T, the FPS stay at 60, I never saw it drop below 58fps or so. When I installed it, I did go to device manager and uninstall the CPU drivers and restart.

Edit2: I notice between setting Afterburner higher than 135/233, the power limit stat in Afterburner's monitor will go to "1" periodically, usually around the time my CPU hits 80c. So that tells me that the added TDP of the 4170 is limiting my GPU OC abilities. I expected that somewhat, however I did not expect to lose performance, periodic drops of 15-30 FPS or if I lower the OC so the power limit doesn't kick in then I cannot achieve the max FPS as before. If this keeps up I will switch back to the stock CPU.

Any suggestions?
Edited by washburn085 - 7/30/16 at 8:14pm
post #2000 of 2154
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Originally Posted by washburn085 View Post

I upgraded to the 4170 and fired up Skyrim. It usually stayed hammered at 60fps, however I noticed it dropping to 25-30 periodically. Hoping it is just temp spikes as the thermal paste flows and spreads a bit and will go away. I noticed it happened when more NPC's were in the vicinity of my character, so CPU workload.

If it persists, I guess that may be a power issue and back off the GPU OC in Afterburner. At 135/655 right now.

Edit: CPU temps are not going above 83c at load. GPU temps are at their normal 65-70c for this game. I tried bumping Afterburner from 0/0 to 135/554, to 135/601, then back to 135/655. The FPS is still dropping down to 30-45 when lots of NPC's are on screen, whereas with the stock 4130T, the FPS stay at 60, I never saw it drop below 58fps or so. When I installed it, I did go to device manager and uninstall the CPU drivers and restart.

Edit2: I notice between setting Afterburner higher than 135/233, the power limit stat in Afterburner's monitor will go to "1" periodically, usually around the time my CPU hits 80c. So that tells me that the added TDP of the 4170 is limiting my GPU OC abilities. I expected that somewhat, however I did not expect to lose performance, periodic drops of 15-30 FPS or if I lower the OC so the power limit doesn't kick in then I cannot achieve the max FPS as before. If this keeps up I will switch back to the stock CPU.

Any suggestions?
Do you have vsync turned on? I never experienced a performance penalty in any games I play after upgrading to a more power hungry CPU.
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