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I have both the 144Hz G-Sync display - ASUS RoG Swift and the 4K IPS monitors - Dell UP2414Q

Here's a review of the RoG Swift in Surround:

Here's an example of 4K Surround (IPS @ 60Hz):


Bottom line is, if you mainly want a gaming monitor, get the 144Hz G-Sync display despite it being a TN panel.

If you want to do some work on it where color reproduction is important (content creation, photography etc.), get an IPS 4K monitor.

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60 Hz sucks for gaming, I won't ever go back. So if gaming is a secondary thing for you, go for 4K. If you are a gamer, 144 Hz is the only way to go.
    
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Be aware that part of the reason high refresh rates feel so much better is because of their diminutive effect on stutter and/or tearing and/or latency (depending on how you have things like V-Sync configured), all things that are also addressed by G-Sync.

Therefore, the difference in experience between a 60Hz G-sync monitor and a 120Hz monitor may be less significant than the difference between a 60Hz monitor and a 120Hz monitor.

Or in other words, 60Hz G-Sync gaming 'sucks' a whole lot less than 60Hz gaming without it.
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The idea of G-SYNC makes perfect sense and is long overdue. I think it is absolutely the right choice to go with G-SYNC rather than not on a 60Hz panel. Unfortunately, all my research would indicate that the initial implementation can be hit or miss. Sure, it can greatly reduce tearing and stuttering, but the fact remains that animation is noticeably smoother at 120-144Hz than at 60Hz with G-SYNC, and that higher refresh rate alone provides very nearly the same improvements on tearing and stuttering.

In other words, while G-SYNC can certainly improve the 60Hz experience, I still think 144Hz straight up would be the better way to go, if you had to choose. Add G-SYNC to a 144Hz display, and you've got the proverbial icing on the cake.
Edited by Quasimojo - 12/29/14 at 9:18am
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Sure, it can greatly reduce tearing and stuttering, but the fact remains that animation is noticeably smoother at 120-144Hz than at 60Hz with G-SYNC, and that higher refresh rate alone provides very nearly the same improvements on tearing and stuttering.

You're sort of saying the same thing as I was, only inverted. I personally don't think it's quite as valid that way around. Higher refresh rate alone does have some impact on the severity of tearing and stutter, but it's not "nearly the same" improvement as G-Sync at all. G-Sync eliminates tearing, and eliminates stutter (the specific type of stutter we're talking about here), and a high refresh rate alone doesn't come close to achieving that.

To make it absolutely clear, I do acknowledge the huge benefits of a higher refresh rate, and there's no question that 120fps is vastly superior to 60fps if they're both clean and stable with either G-sync or V-sync applied. However, comparing my standard 120Hz monitor with V-Sync off and/or the framerate below 120fps vs my 60Hz G-Sync monitor, the latter always provided a more consistent and enjoyable experience.

Obviously, a G-Sync monitor with a high refresh rate is the best of both worlds, but if you really wanted 4k*, I wouldn't overestimate the value of high refresh rates when G-Sync is brought into the equation. 60Hz G-Sync is a very good experience.

*I still don't recommend anyone purchase that 4k Acer G-Sync monitor for other reasons though.
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Sure, it can greatly reduce tearing and stuttering, but the fact remains that animation is noticeably smoother at 120-144Hz than at 60Hz with G-SYNC, and that higher refresh rate alone provides very nearly the same improvements on tearing and stuttering.

You're sort of saying the same thing as I was, only inverted. I personally don't think it's quite as valid that way around. Higher refresh rate alone does have some impact on the severity of tearing and stutter, but it's not "nearly the same" improvement as G-Sync at all. G-Sync eliminates tearing, and eliminates stutter (the specific type of stutter we're talking about here), and a high refresh rate alone doesn't come close to achieving that.

To make it absolutely clear, I do acknowledge the huge benefits of a higher refresh rate, and there's no question that 120fps is vastly superior to 60fps if they're both clean and stable with either G-sync or V-sync applied. However, comparing my standard 120Hz monitor with V-Sync off and/or the framerate below 120fps vs my 60Hz G-Sync monitor, the latter always provided a more consistent and enjoyable experience.

Obviously, a G-Sync monitor with a high refresh rate is the best of both worlds, but if you really wanted 4k*, I wouldn't overestimate the value of high refresh rates when G-Sync is brought into the equation. 60Hz G-Sync is a very good experience.

*I still don't recommend anyone purchase that 4k Acer G-Sync monitor for other reasons though.

Bah, now you're gonna have me looking for it. tongue.gif I've honestly just never noticed *any* tearing/stuttering on my 120Hz display (no G-SYNC). My point was simply that, while I'm sure G-SYNC at 60Hz eliminates tearing/stuttering, it still doesn't provide the motion quality of 120Hz. It can't. There is still going to be more motion blur/ghosting at 60Hz, and at 120Hz any tearing/stuttering, while not eliminated, is effectively managed to the point of being a non-factor - at least that's been my experience with the BenQ XL2420T on a GTX 670 reference card.

That said, G-SYNC is a godsend for 60Hz displays, no doubt about it.
Edited by Quasimojo - 12/29/14 at 8:56pm
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I have a benq xl2420z with lightboost and it is actually worse with lightboost on at 144hz due to the loss of contrast and brightness, what is important is the initial report of the first color showing, not the 1-3 ms of ghosting behind it.
    
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