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Originally Posted by SlackerKing View Post

I am trying to decide if I want to air or liquid cool the CPU in the Air 240.

For liquid cooling I'm leaning toward the Corsair H100i GTX and for air cooling I'm looking at the Noctua NH-C14S.

I've never done a liquid cooled system before, so I am kind of worried about leaks on all my new parts. Supposedly these AIO liquid coolers are pretty reliable, but things do go wrong from time to time, which is why I started looking at the NH-C14S.

The case has a 120mm CPU cooler clearance and the NH-C14S has either a 115mm or 142mm height depending on how you mount the fan. You can mount the fan on the top, but that would make it too tall (142mm) for the Air 240. Or you can mount fan under the fins and it will only be 115mm tall.

My end goal is OC'ing my 6700K to around 4.5 to 4.7 GHz and need to determine which of these coolers would allow that.

Does anyone have any experience with the NH-C14S in an Air 240 with a 6700K OC'd? What GHz did you end up at? Notua's TDP chart says I can expect "medium overclocking potential" with this cooler. Whatever that means.

Same question goes for the H100i GTX, since I may go with it, once I get over my fear of leaks. lol

Here's my thoughts on cooling the case in general. Feel free to make any suggestions.

With H100i GTX

  • Radiator in front with fans bring air into the case
  • 120mm fans in the top for exhaust. I think I can get two 15mm slim fans in there, but I may only be able to fit a single fan there.
  • 120mm fans in the bottom, since I have a Mini-ITX board and should have room. But I am not sure if intake or exhaust would work better. Thoughts?
  • Rear fan slots are empty, unless someone can recommend a quiet 80mm.

With NH-C14S

Pretty much the same setup, except I'd have two 120mm fans in the front instead of the radiator.

Parts List

Here's my part list I'm working with, just in case it makes a difference.

  • Air 240 Case (black)
  • Asrock Fatal1ty Z170 ITX/ac
  • i7-6700K
  • 32 GB DDR-3200 (in addition to gaming, I do development work and run several virtual PC's)
  • EVGA GeForce GTX 980 Ti 6GB Superclocked+ ACX 2.0+
  • Cooler Master JetFlo 120 (PWM) fans Red LED

I'm open to suggestions on fans for the top, bottom, and/or front based on what I said above.

Thanks in advance,
Slacker

Hello Slacker,

Glad to hear I am not the only one who is thinking about an air cooled "Air 240".

Also, thanks for the Noctua NH-C14S tip, I have already run into hypothetical issues in visualizing an AMD R9 390 card in there, apparently some builds of the GPU fit, while others do not, but what these guys claim is that in reality you have 120mm of working room for the width of the GPU: https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/comments/2ovh91/gtx_970s_and_the_corsair_air_240_this_needs_to_be/

So, with the fan in the right orientation, the Noctua NH-C14S is 115 mm thick. How tall is the processor itself? I ask because it is slightly higher than the rest of the mobo right? I mean it will be a tight fit to get the window on as it is with only 5mm.

Anyway, you may have seen this but someone else did pull it off: https://techgage.com/print/corsair-carbide-air-240-chassis-review/

I was hoping to have the window be the top of my case, but starting to think the temps will be even higher in that orientation, even if I manage to get 80mm Noctua fans blowing out, and as many 120mm fans blowing in as I can manage.

I also wanted to go the micro ATX route, I am shooting for a ASUS Z170M-PLUS Micro ATX mobo will fit (same size as a build I'm using as a base), with the XFX Double Dissipation R9 390 I've picked out, but it will cut into 120mm fan space as well.

Cheers,

Fairytinkle
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Hi all. This glorious case already awaits for the build, but I'm still looking for an air cooler that will efficiently cool my 5820K running on stock speeds (for now). Was thinking of getting an AIO like h100i, but I'm a bit afraid of leaks.
Would a Noctua NH-C14S be a good choice? Or Noctua NH-U12S? Was also thinking of Cryorig C1 using a Noctua 140mm fan. What would you recommend?

Specs:
5820K - Asrock X99m Extreme4 - Corsair LPX 2400 2x8gb - Evga Supernova G2 650w - Corsair 240
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Originally Posted by fairytinkl View Post

Hello Slacker,

Glad to hear I am not the only one who is thinking about an air cooled "Air 240".

Also, thanks for the Noctua NH-C14S tip, I have already run into hypothetical issues in visualizing an AMD R9 390 card in there, apparently some builds of the GPU fit, while others do not, but what these guys claim is that in reality you have 120mm of working room for the width of the GPU: https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/comments/2ovh91/gtx_970s_and_the_corsair_air_240_this_needs_to_be/

So, with the fan in the right orientation, the Noctua NH-C14S is 115 mm thick. How tall is the processor itself? I ask because it is slightly higher than the rest of the mobo right? I mean it will be a tight fit to get the window on as it is with only 5mm.

Anyway, you may have seen this but someone else did pull it off: https://techgage.com/print/corsair-carbide-air-240-chassis-review/

I was hoping to have the window be the top of my case, but starting to think the temps will be even higher in that orientation, even if I manage to get 80mm Noctua fans blowing out, and as many 120mm fans blowing in as I can manage.

I also wanted to go the micro ATX route, I am shooting for a ASUS Z170M-PLUS Micro ATX mobo will fit (same size as a build I'm using as a base), with the XFX Double Dissipation R9 390 I've picked out, but it will cut into 120mm fan space as well.

Cheers,

Fairytinkle

I actually ended up going with liquid cooling (Corsair H100i GTX). I turned out to be a pretty good decision because it makes the build look cleaner.

As for the NH-C14S, it should be fine, but it will be tight. The GPU I went with was the EVGA GeForce GTX 980 Ti SC+ GAMING ACX 2.0+ (06G-P4-4995-KR) because it has a height of 111.15mm, which barely fits by the time you plug in the power cords. And by barely, I mean the cables touch the window. The Noctua cooler shouldn't interfere with your fan space. The cooler is perpendicular with the CPU and has an offset angle to prevent it from hitting the PCIe slot.

Based on the size of my GPU, the one you picked out probably won't fit because it has a width of 143mm, which is well past the 120mm limit.

I think I looked at the same Asus board as you, but would have gone with the Asus MAXIMUS VIII GENE Micro ATX, if I went Asus. Turns out the boards are nearly identical, but the one you picked out is around $86 cheaper. Here's a comparison. http://pcpartpicker.com/parts/compare/asus-motherboard-maximusviiigene,asus-motherboard-z170mplus/

Personally, I love the board I picked it. Super easy OC, but most BIOS are like that these days.

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Managed to squeeze in my TXs... and then found out I've not got another set of PCIE cables so can't test the bugger. First world problems. 😐

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I actually ended up going with liquid cooling (Corsair H100i GTX). I turned out to be a pretty good decision because it makes the build look cleaner.

As for the NH-C14S, it should be fine, but it will be tight. The GPU I went with was the EVGA GeForce GTX 980 Ti SC+ GAMING ACX 2.0+ (06G-P4-4995-KR) because it has a height of 111.15mm, which barely fits by the time you plug in the power cords. And by barely, I mean the cables touch the window. The Noctua cooler shouldn't interfere with your fan space. The cooler is perpendicular with the CPU and has an offset angle to prevent it from hitting the PCIe slot.

Based on the size of my GPU, the one you picked out probably won't fit because it has a width of 143mm, which is well past the 120mm limit.

I think I looked at the same Asus board as you, but would have gone with the Asus MAXIMUS VIII GENE Micro ATX, if I went Asus. Turns out the boards are nearly identical, but the one you picked out is around $86 cheaper. Here's a comparison. http://pcpartpicker.com/parts/compare/asus-motherboard-maximusviiigene,asus-motherboard-z170mplus/

Personally, I love the board I picked it. Super easy OC, but most BIOS are like that these days.

Slacker

Ah, too bad you didn't stick to the air cooling! So you are completely right that the graphics card should be too wide, but somehow this guy gets it to fit- after seeing the images I should have checked how wide it is in the specs... but it is clearly an XFX card from the images.. hmm: https://pcpartpicker.com/b/k7xYcf

I was thinking of going with the GTX 970 simply because it is so much cooler, but it also in reality only has 3.5 Gb of RAM so I may just wait it out to for the next line to arrive before going with a 980.

Which Mobo did you end up using, and did you stick with the case fans? Since the room temps I deal with go up to 85 or at most 90 F (29/30 C) I think it's going to be really loud, so I am looking into replacing all the case fans with Noctua ones, in which case I might even play with a mini ITX build, but could be tricky to get everything on there. Anyway here's the mini ITX build I'd use: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/tN9JYJ
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Ah, too bad you didn't stick to the air cooling! So you are completely right that the graphics card should be too wide, but somehow this guy gets it to fit- after seeing the images I should have checked how wide it is in the specs... but it is clearly an XFX card from the images.. hmm: https://pcpartpicker.com/b/k7xYcf

I was thinking of going with the GTX 970 simply because it is so much cooler, but it also in reality only has 3.5 Gb of RAM so I may just wait it out to for the next line to arrive before going with a 980.

Which Mobo did you end up using, and did you stick with the case fans? Since the room temps I deal with go up to 85 or at most 90 F (29/30 C) I think it's going to be really loud, so I am looking into replacing all the case fans with Noctua ones, in which case I might even play with a mini ITX build, but could be tricky to get everything on there. Anyway here's the mini ITX build I'd use: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/tN9JYJ

I have no idea how he could fit that XFX card in that case. Especially since mine (with cables) touches the window at 111mm. And that last link you provided warns the card won't even fit length-wise.

The motherboard I chose was the Asrock Z170 ITX/ac. It had some great reviews. For fans I have the two 120mm on the front mounted radiator. These fans pull air into the case through the rad. Then I have two 120mm fans on the bottom set as intake to help keep the GPU cool. Finally I have a single 120mm exhaust fan at the top, but I think I could fit a 2nd 15mm thin fan in there. Maybe. The top and bottom fans are set to "silent" mode in the BIOS and the cooler fans/pump are set to quiet/balanced in the Corsair Link software. With these settings I can't even hear anything and my CPU temps run around 67c under load. It's 23c in my room now, but will rise to around 28c in summer, so it'll be interesting to see what my temps are then.

I thought about a mini ITX case for a bit, but this Air 240 is perfect.
    
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I finally got around to doing my rebuild into thia case and attempt my first ever custom loop.

Specs:
i7 6700k
Msi 980ti
16gb of corsair lpx ram
Msi mortar motherboard.


What GPU Block is that? Is it a reference card?
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What GPU Block is that? Is it a reference card?

Hey Mate,

yeah it is a reference card and this is the block i used. - https://www.pccasegear.com/products/32477/ek-full-cover-vga-block-ek-fc-titan-x-nickel-original-csq
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I have no idea how he could fit that XFX card in that case. Especially since mine (with cables) touches the window at 111mm. And that last link you provided warns the card won't even fit length-wise.

The motherboard I chose was the Asrock Z170 ITX/ac. It had some great reviews. For fans I have the two 120mm on the front mounted radiator. These fans pull air into the case through the rad. Then I have two 120mm fans on the bottom set as intake to help keep the GPU cool. Finally I have a single 120mm exhaust fan at the top, but I think I could fit a 2nd 15mm thin fan in there. Maybe. The top and bottom fans are set to "silent" mode in the BIOS and the cooler fans/pump are set to quiet/balanced in the Corsair Link software. With these settings I can't even hear anything and my CPU temps run around 67c under load. It's 23c in my room now, but will rise to around 28c in summer, so it'll be interesting to see what my temps are then.

I thought about a mini ITX case for a bit, but this Air 240 is perfect.

OK so I was, and still am, pretty perplexed because it wouldn't make sense that we would be off by a whole 20mm as to where the window rests. But could this explain it? It appears the motherboard of the build with an R9 390 in it is ~51 mm thick, and the one you have is ~70mm. I think it is because AS Rock puts the M.2 attachment on the underside of the motherboard, so your M.2 attachment must be resting on the internal architecture?

It is too bad, because the AS Rock one you picked out is better in many ways than the ASUS one, and I would prefer to use the ASRock one with an R9 390
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