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So we have to flash HD 7970 to 280X to get VSR in phase 2?
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post #32 of 55
Let's wait till the drivers come out. Might just work since they are rebrands or device ID spoofing might work.
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Bring on Lanczos filter, nVidia! No way nVidia will let this slide and allow AMD to hold the throne for downsampling image results. BTW, what flicker are they talking about? I get 0 flicker when I use DSR!
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Bring on Lanczos filter, nVidia! No way nVidia will let this slide and allow AMD to hold the throne for downsampling image results. BTW, what flicker are they talking about? I get 0 flicker when I use DSR!

You can already bring it by using GeDoSaTo. tongue.gif

On my G1 GTX 980, works flawlessly and it's less blurry than DSR. Dunno about performance, since I don't have OCD or get hard-ons about measures and numbers(poking fun at OCNers biggrin.gif),it seems to be better than DSR, subjective opinion of course.

Now, I'm interested to see what kind of shader-based downsampling they'll give us. My brother would love to tinker with it, since he own my old 7950CF.
    
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Not sure how heavily compressed internet video is supposed to provide a relevant comparison of subtle differences in downsampling...
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always wondered, is it possible to down sample to a 4k resolution ? I know its only theoretical and maybe pointless to those who don't like to go extreme on everything ( this is OCN though ). So can you for example downsample from 5k or 8k to a native 4k panel ? Does the AMD allow this but the Nvidia not ?

It's possible, but neither DSR nor VSR can do it, yet. You either need a game that integrates some form of SSAA, a game that works with driver forced SSAA, or you need to use the old custom resolution method.
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Nonsense. VSR is driver-level, there's no specialized hardware for downsampling

Hardware scalers are hardware and VSR's current implimentation isn't purely software, else it would work on any and every card.
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Well at least You need Hardware based to use VSR , If not Why does VSR Work only in 285,290,290x?


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Not sure how heavily compressed internet video is supposed to provide a relevant comparison of subtle differences in downsampling...
It's possible, but neither DSR nor VSR can do it, yet. You either need a game that integrates some form of SSAA, a game that works with driver forced SSAA, or you need to use the old custom resolution method.
Hardware scalers are hardware and VSR's current implimentation isn't purely software, else it would work on any and every card.

My mistake, I apologize. I must say, though, I think they're going about it the wrong way (until they implement their phase 2 that is tongue.gif). Both DSR and VSR are so incredibly basic at the moment.



About custom resolutions beyond 4K, I'm going to endorse GeDoSaTo again. It supports pretty much any resolution anyone might want.
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So we have to flash HD 7970 to 280X to get VSR in phase 2?

Probably Impossible.Check AMD GPU Specification Comparison in 

http://www.anandtech.com/show/8460/amd-radeon-r9-285-review

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7457/the-radeon-r9-290x-review 

7970 and 280x are based on Tahiti (CGN 1.0) and 290,290x are based on Hawaii (CGN 1.1) aslo 285 is Tonga (CGN 1.2).So VSR is only available in CGN 1.1 and above.

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Not sure what flickering they are speaking of because I haven't seen any flickers. 

 
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Probably Impossible.Check AMD GPU Specification Comparison in 
http://www.anandtech.com/show/8460/amd-radeon-r9-285-review
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7457/the-radeon-r9-290x-review 
7970 and 280x are based on Tahiti (CGN 1.0) and 290,290x are based on Hawaii (CGN 1.1) aslo 285 is Tonga (CGN 1.2).So VSR is only available in CGN 1.1 and above.

Talking about Phase 2. They come out Q1 2015. Problem is they said 260 + which does not include HD 7XXX even though most 2XX cards are 7XXX re-brands.
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I want whatever these guys are smoking. DSR doesn't improve Rome 2 to any varying degree, and I bet the same for VSR. You can only stretch 40% so far.

Plus, don't you need some expensive capturing hardware to even notice the benefits in a still picture? Because if I recall Nvidia correctly when they talked about DSR, using stuff like Fraps, or taking screenshots, does not show DSR at all.
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Right now we lack the technology on the desktop to do simple screen grabs that capture the way DSR enabled games actually look on our desktop screens. We expect to have a solution to show the benefits of this shortly.
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2014/09/18/nvidia_maxwell_gpu_geforce_gtx_980_video_card_review#.VInXByvF_q0

I didn't look for their new article but you get the idea. Hopefully the people who did this article used an expensive capture card.
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