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Originally Posted by Schoat333 View Post

Google knows they can not black access to their site for people using adblock. I'd bet more than half the visitors to youtube use adblock. They would just open the door for someone to replace youtube.
I got rid of ABP actually. I was using it since it had an amazing pop-up blocker with it. However, those that I watch on YT do deserve the small amount of revenue I generate for them.
Also, I wish I could have OCN approved in NoScript (all the extra scripts that is). But if I do, I get ads loading on other pages as well. Also, OCN does take a decent amount of time to load without NS.
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my biggest reason for using things like AB and ghostery is the fact that I just don't trust ads to not be malicious, at all...I don't trust where they are hosting from, I don't trust what scripts they may be running, I trust them even less when they are auto playing some nonsense that you cant turn off.
then I can lose trust in an entire website if it is plastered in spam ads, just massive tasteless spam ads and I will stop going to those sites when I see them on browsers where I don't use AB or ghostery, like work.
clean, well designed ads can be tasteful and can work....but a majority of them turn you off to the product, pose a security risk and impede your enjoyment of the content you wish to consume.
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Are you going to stop using all Google & Microsoft services if they sue, then? I don't believe you.

Sue? No. Win? Yes.

I used Google for my search engine ever since it launched and overtook Alta-Vista in usefulness. One week this year it was loading slowly for me for a few days, and I haven't used it since. It's not hard to abandon a site--even ones I've come to rely on.
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Cool, just block the ad servers' IPs instead. So, where exactly do they have a case? Adblocking software isn't illegal by any means, nor is it in any legal grey area. Can I sue people because they make a product I don't like? If I can invent a smart car window that detects and blocks billboards from view, then can these companies sue me? Perhaps glasses that cover up ads in the newspaper? I guess this is a bit different since those are paid for in advance while web ads are paid for by view.

But just remember: if you don't want people to block your ads, don't make them so damn annoying. If I'm forced to watch a 30 second commercial before a 77 second YouTube video, maybe there's a bit of a problem. If you go and sue the guy who invented that workaround because he's costing you money, then there's a problem.

Actually, I wouldn't mind ads and data mining if Google and the like gave me some kickbacks. My data is valuable to them, but so is my time. Make it worth my while and I'll be more than happy to share.

You do get kickbacks, you get to use their services for free (aka email, internet video, calendar, etc). Can they go overboard? Of course they can but in order for them to provide you a service you want they have to monetize it somehow, you can't just get something for nothing. Either they use your data or you pay a fee, there's no such thing as a free lunch.

What really irritates me is a business model where they offer a paid option and you still have to watch ads! I'm looking at you Hulu Plus. Stop that, it's stupid.
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Correct me if I'm wrong here, but wasn't the internet supposed to be free at first and generate revenue from Ads on the web, then they changed the policy and decided to change for the internet access and have no Ads. Now we pay a lot for often terrible connection for internet literally filled with Ads on nearly every single website.
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What a load of crap. I hate ads. Someone will just come out with a different ad-blocker if they take down AdBlock Plus, but damn. I mean I think in the worst case, they could make that little option "Allow Acceptable Ads" enabled at all times as a compromise, but I have 4 lists needing updating to get rid of all that junk. I can't imagine my IE, Firefox, and even Chrome without AdBlock Plus. Its a MUST.
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If for no other reason than reducing attack surface and speeding up page loads, it's important. Trackers and ads constitute up to dozens of extra resource fetches and a bloated ton of Javascript for the browser to compile and plow through on many popular sites. Web browsing is slow enough already without all of that extra crap. It takes a minute and a half of CPU time on a dual 1.4 GHz Pentium III-S just to load my page on Facebook.
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Poor little old microsoft and google. They only made how many billions of dollars last year.
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post #49 of 299
Doesn't seem like they have a case and will just sue to disrupt and stranglehold the developer with legal fees. Why should any of us have to pay Google not to show ads? WE should be getting a cut of the money they make reselling our information.
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They are most likely to sue because Adblock is an addon to their respective browsers, and advertisers are stomping their feet. I guess he should only make it for Firefox.
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