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Maybe this is the wrong thread to ask, but why do ISPs limit your upload so much? Most of the cable in my area is fiber so it can handle it, what's the purpose of limiting it? Even on a business account you can't get the same amount of upload as download.

Because network hardware doesn't perform based off of upload and download, basically network hardware doesn't really see a difference between upload and download. It simply sees traffic, and has an aggregate throughput capacity, which is all traffic combined at any given time across that hardware.

Since more people consume, by a large margin, what you guys would refer to as the downstream, they are going to dedicate more of the network hardware resources to providing that. By limiting uploading we are able to help keep download speeds higher and more reliable.
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Because network hardware doesn't perform based off of upload and download, basically network hardware doesn't really see a difference between upload and download. It simply sees traffic, and has an aggregate throughput capacity, which is all traffic combined at any given time across that hardware.

Since more people consume, by a large margin, what you guys would refer to as the downstream, they are going to dedicate more of the network hardware resources to providing that. By limiting uploading we are able to help keep download speeds higher and more reliable.
Well if you want to put it that way, give me a half duplex 15Mb/s connection instead of a 10x5. then I can do whatever I want with my 15Mb/s.
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Maybe this is the wrong thread to ask, but why do ISPs limit your upload so much? Most of the cable in my area is fiber so it can handle it, what's the purpose of limiting it? Even on a business account you can't get the same amount of upload as download.

you CAN get a symmetric connection, but be prepared to pay at least double what you pay now.
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Well if you want to put it that way, give me a half duplex 15Mb/s connection instead of a 10x5. then I can do whatever I want with my 15Mb/s.
you CAN get a symmetric connection, but be prepared to pay at least double what you pay now.

You actually expect the major providers to utilize their infrastructure in a way that they really could?

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I don't know how many customers of mine, on our wireless service, are there because the big guy won't give them anything more than a few Mbs/s, and just plays stupid about the fiber 30 feet away.

A bit of an educated estimate, but if you live in a population center of about 60,000 or more, odds are likely you are within walking distance of significant fiber infrastructure. Yet will still have terrible service at an astronomical cost per Mb.
    
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I just called to check. I have 50Mb/5Mb (350Gb Cap) cable for $60 a month. To upgrade that to 100Mb/10Mb (999Gb Cap) it'll run $179 a month. The lady on the phone wouldn't tell me how much the 150Mb/10Mb internet was, said it was reserved for small business.
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You actually expect the major providers to utilize their infrastructure in a way that they really could?

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I don't know how many customers of mine, on our wireless service, are there because the big guy won't give them anything more than a few Mbs/s, and just plays stupid about the fiber 30 feet away.

A bit of an educated estimate, but if you live in a population center of about 60,000 or more, odds are likely you are within walking distance of significant fiber infrastructure. Yet will still have terrible service at an astronomical cost per Mb.
The only infrastructure that serves my property is over a mile of buried 25 pair phone line that was buried around 30 years ago.
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I just called to check. I have 50Mb/5Mb (350Gb Cap) cable for $60 a month. To upgrade that to 100Mb/10Mb (999Gb Cap) it'll run $179 a month. The lady on the phone wouldn't tell me how much the 150Mb/10Mb internet was, said it was reserved for small business.

I wouldn't be surprised if that 150/10 cost $500/mo or more. I'm glad I don't have a cap - in the past 14 days, I've transferred over 250GB of data.
 
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The only infrastructure that serves my property is over a mile of buried 25 pair phone line that was buried around 30 years ago.

That sucks.
    
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I thought that's what it was, but something in my mind thought it was just a limit of the media, not the network as a whole. I always found it strange that I can't choose how much download and upload I want. Currently I have 50 down / 25 up so it's not an issue, but back when I had only 15 down / 1.8 up, it was difficult just to host a console game. 8/8 would of been perfect at that time.
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That sucks.

It will (barely) support 1.5/384k DSL, and I had a T1 running on it for 5 years. I had plenty of problems with the latter, and had to upgrade the drop as it was even older wire that lacked sufficient twist to be useful. now I have fixed wireless, and barring the teething issues, is fantastic (and will make for easy upgrades in the future, since air doesn't need to be upgraded).
 
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