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how big of a fan does the rear of the S8s support? 38mm seems TINY, and unless its a 4 pin, it might be loud....
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The reference was to the fan thickness. 120mm fans usually come in 25mm and 38mm thickness (with a few low profile options).
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The reference was to the fan thickness. 120mm fans usually come in 25mm and 38mm thickness (with a few low profile options).


Yep, 38mm super-thick 120mmX120mm framed fans. They work extremely well with thicker rads and much nicer looking than the push pull “fan-wiched” configurations in my opinion. I guess we won’t find out definitively about the brand new EK XE line until next week, where’s the EK guy when you really need him? If EK used the PE split fin core for the new XE, then it surely will supersede the XSPC RXv3 line at low fan rpms, I hope this is the case.


If EK did not use the PE split fin design for the new XE rads and is simply using the old antiquated serpentine design wrapping an out-dated XTX core in a new removable skin as VGS (geggeg) has suggested then it will not perform better than the XSPC RX rads at low rpm, and I certainly won’t be buying any.


The XSPC RX rads are still very nice looking, no removable outer components so it is more difficult to paint them, but not impossible, I've seen a few custom painted with outstanding results, Performance PCs is now using a gunmetal paint that’s a very close match to the CaseLabs gunmetal powdercoat, I should mail Hank or Jeremy and see what they charge for two 240 rads.


If XSPC only placed a removable squared aesthetic frame around their RX rads OR if EK only used a thicker cored PE rad I’d have my ideal radiators for the inaudible S8S, oh well the waiting seems never-ending within this hobby.


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The PE core has a lot of airflow impedance though, and a thicker one would only make it worse. It would definitely not be a top performer with low speed fans. That's why you see thicker rads (50mm+) with relatively low airflow impedance only.
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Stopped by PPCS this morning, picked up some parts for the transfer build from two tone Mercury S8 to gunmetal Mercury S8 test bench, planning to use the empty S8 black/white chassis to build my future father-in-law a very nice high performance inaudible work PC, he doesn't mind the extra height of the S8, in fact seems to prefer it over the smaller S8S in addition to the four windows all around and that’s cool, but for me there’s no going back, it was love at first glance when Kevin posted those first few photos back in late December 2014. I knew I was witnessing the evolution of the PC chassis as we know it, smaller yet still able to house an E-ATX or dual CPU motherboard and still maintaining extra “Zen” space around all components. Many may argue the S8S should have been the natural next forward step after the S5, and not the taller S8, yet that would have limited radiator placement fairly severely, I think CL made the right decision releasing the S8 before the S8S.



With the S8S by itself, you’re rather limited to 240mm rads (x2) or a thin 360mm mounted in the lower left HDD/SSD chamber, only extremely thin rads can be mounted up top without the extended top, and with a single bank of fans the assembly is going to block the rear 120mm exhaust at least partially. The S8 sort of eliminates the need for a pedestal, although I’ve thought of buying a pedestal many times for my S8S, it's such a ideal aesthetic/performance combination lifting the S8S with full top window up off the work desk 7 inches at standing distance looking down on all that beautiful hardware, those builds should begin showing up around June in these pages. So glad I waited until Computex arrives to make final decisions on some new components, not sure if I’m still going with the EVGA 980 Kingpin, it’s beautiful certainly an ideal match with the CL gunmetal powdercoat, a bit concerned over only 4GB of memory on board, 6GB seems would keep the card relevant so much longer, see what the 980Ti will bring, rumors are spilling over about a 980Ti Kingpin Edition by September again with the gunmetal metal housing, geez I can’t wait that long.



This EK single bay res “Clean” front TOP acrylic is absolutely gorgeous crystal clear in true EK fashion, it's a new part from EK, had to be ordered special by PPCS from Slovenia since they normally do not carry it, well they do now, 4 left in stock, going to swap out the CSQ circled frosted front acrylic that arrives standard with the EK single bay res for use in the S8 test bench build. Special thanks to Duke of PPCS, seems all G1/4 O-rings are not created equal, I needed replacement rings for both Bitspower and Monsoon soft compression fittings realize they both stretch and compress yet the two are very different parts and would guess not interchangeable. Also picked up two CL Flexbay solid front covers in gunmetal for the test bench about a dollar cheaper each than the CaseLabs store, and shipping is very reasonable actually free since my office is only a short drive from Performance PCs.



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Hehehe, this is going to work out great, mounting the EK X-res and AquaComputer D5 pump in the very front of the lower left chamber so only the reservoir tube rises up from below into the upper chamber. Only need a 65mm hole saw and a nice clean cut from above will leave an angled clean and shiny bare aluminum chamfer, so no need for a rubber U-Channel grommet. Will use the longer 140mm EK tube (or maybe the 250mm) and add a white res top, should look amazing, and next to the “Emerging Res” two white Bitspower passthroughs asymmetrically cut and positioned moving down into the lower chamber, I’m about to get all jiggity.



And with a wave of the hand, “reservoir come forth to me and emerge from the depths of...….....the lower chamber.”



...yea, thats sounds good. smile.gif



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Woohoo, Jeremy the modding aficionado extraordinaire at PPCS can complete the 65mm Emerging Res Mod, only charging $10, Oh My I love PPCS, yet they only have a 64mm hole saw, the EK Res tube is 60mm outer diameter, that would leave only a 2mm air gap circumventing the diameter, 65mm hole leaves 2.5mm, really think I need that extra 0.5mm and once cut at 64 no clean way to open it another mm and not have it look like a clean cut, have to then purchase another mid-chassis part from CaseLabs.


Amazon has a 65mm saw for $10, I’ll just order that part and take it to Jeremy, he did the last CaseLabs pump\res mod came out really nice. Basically allows the S8/S8S horizontal platform on the left interior midchassis piece to perform exactly as an EK D5 UNI mounting bracket, the pump slips down inside the cut hole and the pump/pump top/res assembly is supported by four 3/4inch Sorbothane hemispheres, rendering the D5 pump inaudible at 50% power and/or anything less, using AquaSuite software.


You also have to make certain your tubing when constructing your loop, does not apply any additional force either downward which negates the function and benefit of the Sorbothane feet and any lateral forces which might move the pump into contact with the cut hole edge creating vibration and noise. It’s tricky, but not impossible, upward forces can actually benefit the isolation of the assembly by supporting some of the weight against gravity.








     
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Jeremy is one of the best modders out there. Goes by the name E.E.L. If you've never seen his work you should check him out. He does some crazy stuff.
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Jeremy is one of the best modders out there. Goes by the name E.E.L. If you've never seen his work you should check him out. He does some crazy stuff.

Hehe, well he does cut a very mean hole in sheet aluminum, I commented to him last time just how very circular it was. smile.gif


Wanted to add something about the inaudible D5 pump res mod above, it's also a great position to feature your reservoir in the S8 front window (and maybe an S8S future front window), you are able to position the res in the very center of the window, looks very nice, although I’ve noticed some enthusiasts dismiss the X-res because at stock EK only offers it with a small 110mm or medium 150mm length tube. EK also sells longer tubes a long 250mm (9.8inch) res tube which would fill up the height of the S8 window and an extra long 400mm tube (15.7inch) that both mount directly into the X-res pump top. They are selling the X-res now with the 150mm tube in the new EK/Mercury S8 specific water kit which Stren explains in his assembly videos, very well done by the way, except using a sharp metal screwdriver edge to remove a CaseLabs front cover? Ummm no Stren, just no. But that’s just me, I cringe when I see reviewers rolling a CaseLabs over on its side without a soft towel on the workbench or throwing a panel down on the hard floor. No, I have to look away.


     
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