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Thought about using these AquaComputer Airplex rads, many many times. They do look really nice, the black and silver aesthetic would really work well in the S8S, but (knew that but was coming), yes they use very high grade materials during manufacturing and the beauty really does jump out at you, but they cost about twice as much and perform half as well (oversimplified) as similar EKs and XSPCs and the Hardware Labs Nemesis GTX line.

They are very beautiful, and I understand why people use them in their builds, but the performance numbers simply are not there, low fan rpm 120mmx25mm single bank, they place near the top, and that’s their best showing, and the XSPC RX and Nemesis GTX do much better same config at half the price. Then recently AquaComputer unveiled a newer type of rad similar but less expensive, forget the naming, they placed very average during all testing.

Not certain why the AirPlex radiators place so average to poor and have since launch in 2013, love the way they look yet it seems there’s more to the making of high performing rads than simply high end raw materials. And don’t believe the modularity function ever really gained any real popularity at all. Dear God, they are beautiful though, love the way they look in this video S8 build.

Here’s a 280mm listed at $170, roughly twice as much as the EK CE 280mm I'm picking up tomorrow.

http://www.performance-pcs.com/radiators/aquacomputer-airplex-modularity-rad-system-280mm-alum-fins-one-circuit-stainless-side-panels.html


These AquaComputer AirPlex rads are a left brain/right brain struggle for me, like putting a humidifier and a dehumidifier in the same room and letting them fight it out.

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If you want bling, you gotta get the copper thumb.gif

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If you want bling, you gotta get the copper thumb.gif


Would work so well with the EVGA 980Ti KingPin in full copper. smile.gif

I do so love AquaComputer monitoring and control components the Aquaero 6 and PowerAdjust 3 Ultra (although wish they would announce a PWM PowerAdjust 3 variant), and I have both the AquaComputer USB/software controlled D5 in the test bench and picked up the July launched AquaComputer PWM D5 for the S8S. I’m only hoping their next series of radiators that supersede the AirPlex Modularity System AMS offers us both beauty and the best performance, then they would be worth twice the price.

Until that day arrives, I’ll be content with the EK XE 240mm and EK CE 280mm rad, picking the latter up tomorrow from PPCS and I’m highly anticipating your CE series review and those oh so sexy data points. Thanks for stopping by professor, always a pleasure, love your amazing work. thumb.gif



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Fate is pretty quick on the uptake but I think he's missed the underlyer here. tongue.gif

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The eternal struggle takes time, Max.
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Fate is pretty quick on the uptake but I think he's missed the underlyer here. tongue.gif

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The eternal struggle takes time, Max.
I am Professor Fate! (not) tongue.gif

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Hahahaha, the one and only. thumb.gif

The response curve or PWM duty cycle for the new EK Vardar 120mm 2200rpm PWM fans. With mine each data point is plotted a bit lower that yours. Is that since I’m measuring 3 fans per PWM channel instead of your single fan? The “area under the curve” is still basically the same, at least in shape.

http://www.xtremerigs.net/2015/08/04/putting-er-f4-vardar/

I really love these EK 120mm PWM ERs, so much I had already purchased $250 worth of Sanyo Denki 120x25mm Silent S Type fans for the S8S, my favorite since 2012, and now I’m replacing them all with the EKs. The Sanyos will have to live in my parts box until a position is found for them. smile.gif

Please, no one confuse this information for the 120mm EK ERs, with the 140mm EK Extended Range fans. I'm hoping we can discuss the EK 140mm ERs as as the good professor's testing is completed. biggrin.gif

Driving over to PPCS to pick up the 280mm EK CE radiator for my two 140 ERs as soon as I receive word they are ready, on pins and needles.

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This chart is EK 120mm ER (x3) only and X=%PWR Y=RPMs


Edited by iBruce - 8/31/15 at 8:03am
     
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I speak like a hood rat more often than not. But growing up I was pointed at the GIGANTIC copy of Webster's Collegiate Dictionary on the top of my Grandparents Console Television whenever I wanted to know something. My Gramma was a tough woman. And she could scalp you better than any Native American ever could. She was part ninja and a whole lot of snatch yer scalped when I was doing wrong. At least most of the victims in our Nation's history were dead when scalped. I was alive and sore from those blitz attacks. So I come by it honestly iBruce. biggrin.gif

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For your response curve, how were the fans powered ?
If from Aquaero channel, it's likely to have only supplied 11.7 or 11.8 volt to the fans.
I have separate power source which I adjusted to 12.1 volt at the plug before commencing, and just control PWM with the Aquaero.
Voltage difference is the most likely cause of the data difference.

EDIT: Also if you tested in the S8S and fans fitted to the Flex-Bay mount, the front mesh would have affected the air flow and is another cause for the rpm differences.

Well, the 140mm testing is on hold, due to the recall.
The ones I have (F3 140ER) all have weird noises under 1000 rpm or around 60% PWM.
Edited by fast_fate - 8/31/15 at 8:43am
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Recall what recall? There’s been an official EK recall? We’re talking about fans right?

I already bought the matching radiator for the S8S FlexBay. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! sozo.gif

October for replacements? Maybe? This is a terrible setback. sad-smiley-002.gif


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Edited by iBruce - 8/31/15 at 9:19am
     
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Unfortunately Yes




Currently only the F1-140mm are available which were not effected.

https://shop.ekwb.com/radiators-fans/fans/140mm
Edited by fast_fate - 8/31/15 at 9:09am
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Yep, the issue is real alright, I could never get work completed listening to those bearings drag along in the background, high to medium pitched squeal, changes frequency and flutters.

Begins around 900rpm (fan channel 4 in pic) and continues anything below that speed.

Dayum, and I picked mine up the same day of the recall, unknowingly.

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