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Just realized that I missed the part where the S8S's days are numbered. Kind of sad to realize since I just ordered it.

How long will additional parts be available after it is discontinued?

Is there a S8S to S8 conversion available? Or just by purchasing the parts individually?

I'm wondering if I should change my order to a s8. frown.gif
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Just realized that I missed the part where the S8S's days are numbered. Kind of sad to realize since I just ordered it.

How long will additional parts be available after it is discontinued?

Is there a S8S to S8 conversion available? Or just by purchasing the parts individually?

I'm wondering if I should change my order to a s8. frown.gif

I’ve had both S8 and S8S, they are really mostly the same case, with the S8 offering space for up to two 360mm rads mounted on the roof, if that’s the look you want, while the S8S with full top window will give your components just under the plexi window that “display case view” and an overall shorter stature, if that's the look you want.

Best of both worlds seems like would be an S8S with full top window and pedestal to display your hardware looking down from above, while mounting two 360mm rads within the pedestal. For me, I’d rather look at gorgeous hardware in the upper chamber and nothing but air above it and not rads covering the gorgeous hardware, I’d rather put the radiators below in a pedestal, behind the scenes with two complete chambers mounted above the pedestal.

Hmmm, I believe I just talked myself into buying a pedestal for my S8S. thinking.gif
     
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I agree on the size with the pedestal.

Sticking to my gunz!

I do wish I could fit a 140mm fan in the s8s rear tho. :/
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Yea, a 140mm rear exhaust would be sweet, but you could always use a 120mmx38mm thick industrial server fan to exhaust warm air out of the upper chamber, the additional 13mm of fan housing or cowl and increased thickness and pitch in the blades will surely make up for the difference in surface area from 140mm to 120mm, even at low rpms.

I’m using Vardar 120mmx25mm PWM Extended Range fans six in the lower left chamber for the XE rad and rear exhaust and two 140mmx25mm PWM Extended Range for the Flex Bay mounted 280mm rad, but I went extremely old school for the unobstructed fresh air chassis front left intake and right rear exhaust to gain some cross-flow ventilation for the video card area and mobo VRM, using 38mm thick industrial blower style DC fans, both connected to the AquaComputer PowerAdjust 3 Ultra, so can be adjusted via AquaSuite software.

Will they work any better than a Vardar 120mm PWM ER? Maybe at maximum rpm the blower engineering will take over, but at a comfortable decibel level both fans will move about the same amount of air in and out of the case. I just like the way they look. My theme if it can be called a theme is minimalist - industrial, so these old style Sanyo Denki’s server fans circa 2011 really express the look and feel I was trying to capture.

See how THICK they look in the pics, they’re also very heavy at 330 grams total mass. Not everyone's cup of tea, I realize that. smile.gif

The things we do for aesthetics, right? thumb.gif








     
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Looks good! Only concern is I need the quietest fans possible. This is a computer in my mixing room and I'm gonna attempt a quiet build even though I've heard these cases aren't idea for that.
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I wouldn’t take the noise dampening foam on the side panel approach, I’m not certain why enthusiasts are concerned with how much noise moves through side panels or acrylic windows.

My S8 test bench is inaudible and it has no side or top panels whatsoever.

The real key to an inaudible rig is isolating the noise energy at the very source, not creating a hot box using insulating material on the side and top panels.

Just isolate all moving parts, your fans and pump(s), it’s just a few extra steps. thumb.gif


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Description below pertains to my S8 test bench, but will use the same or similar methods in the S8S build.

As far as isolating your pump, it may be difficult to see but if you look through the semi-clear plexi block (pic below) under each of the four corners is a 3/4inch Sorbothane hemisphere absorbing all the energy and noise from the D5 pump. It’s not bolted or fastened down, the pump and pump top and two fittings and one water temperature sensor are simply resting on the noise absorbing feet via gravity alone. There really is no vibration or noise when touching the two fittings although if there was that slight amount would dissipate through the soft tubing lengths.

Soft tubing filled with coolant acts as an energy/noise absorbing material.

This is only one way to noise isolate a D5. Since the D5 must be hard-mounted to the pump top, there is no way around that step, you must treat the entire pump and pump top as one assembly that must not come in contact with any portion of the chassis, the assembly can only come in contact with the noise absorbing material whatever material you choose to use.

I think this is one reason the guys using the large cases like the SMA8 will use hard tubing in aesthetic areas around the CPU and video card array, because it looks so nice and then transition to soft tubing at the pass through point leading into the lower chamber containing the pump and pump top where they can isolate those noise generating components (behind the scenes). This was some of the inspiration/rational that went into my choice for using two pass throughs and transitioning from hard to soft tubing before entering the lower chamber of the S8S.

If you stop the noise rotational energy at the source, you never have to worry about that noise moving/transmitting through your chassis and never need to use noise insulating side or top panels, or any of the so-called “silent cases” which normally come with restricted airflow.

Does that mean a D5-Strong is completely inaudible up to 100% pwr output and 5000rpm rotation at maximum? No, the setup I have in this pic is only inaudible to about 50% pwr on the D5 pump and 3000rpm rotational speed, which works out since my loop is very short only cooling one CPU. If you need to run your pump at higher than 50% pwr under normal usage for a larger loop, then more robust noise absorption could be easily designed, for my setup, I only spent $16, and only used four of the sorbothane feet, link below.

http://www.amazon.com/Sorbothane-Hemisphere-Non-Skid-Adhesive-Durometer/dp/B003IMSIBA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1446915082&sr=8-1&keywords=3%2F4+inch+sorbothane+hemispheres





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This pic arrived in an early morning twilight sleep, not so certain how. Think it was trying to say get the Z170 chipset NOW, and pick up the X99 6820K Broadwell-E CPU and updated ASUS X99-E WS board arriving March of next year.

Twilight dreams are very weird. tongue.gif

     
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