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Originally Posted by MaximilianKohler View Post

It's a shame that at the very least I still won't get an apology and admittance that I was right all along when the tools finally come out that prove it beyond a doubt, or when you get your MCU fix and it doesn't do anything like what you think it will (oh wait I forgot, it won't affect you the least bit because you completely ignore ingame testing. So you'll see the MCU delay is gone and all of a sudden it will be the best mouse ever since you can't measure any MCU delay anymore. LMAO. Bunch of idiots), just like what happened with the MLT04 debate.

Everybody does in-game testing, because, you know, that's what you use gaming mice for. And countless of mice recently have been completely fine for me in terms of sensor performance. The difference is marginal and meaningless to me personally, because I can play perfectly fine the way these sensors are. I say personally because that might be different for people who play with higher sensitivities. My in-game performance with mice is much more determined by shape and weight than the miniscule differences between current sensors (3310 and 3366) and their implementations.

So the reason why I'm looking forward to the Tournament Pro/Scream One is shape and low weight.
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Originally Posted by Nixtix View Post

They said at some point that because pros play on various lans with various types of hardware, that 500hz would have less of chance of putting strain on the PC's as compared to 1000 HZ.....

I remember them (Jude) saying 1000hz directly affected the mouse's performance in a negative way which is why I asked if they had found a work-around with the S1 or had just given in to popular request ...No reply but I remember something about testers finding it "slippery" or something.
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Originally Posted by TburdzZ View Post

Just out of curiosity have we ever been given a good reason why the fm is 500 hz.

500 hz vs 1000 hz makes like 1-2 ms difference, seems marginal when 3310 -sensor in all implementations have 2 ms more delay and in FM15 implementation has 7 ms delay.. Just saying..

It is actually more important that the polling rate is stable, g303 has true stable polling rate on 1000 hz, other mice that I have tested it is often more stable on 500 hz than 1000 hz.. That is probably what they meant by it. They couldn't guarantee stable 1000 hz polling rate for every motherboard so they decided to keep it on 500 hz..
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Tournament pros will be available tonight from what I am hearing.

1000hz does give a different feel for me and others we have talked to. For the s1 we are developing the firmware from the ground up and we are setting the polling rate to a fixed 1000hz.

This is actually convenient for the 3360 because I believe a lot of the sensors timings are at default 1ms. Not sure on the specifics just what I heard.

Also at the moment we are developing a debounce logic for the buttons which we hope will be very low latency. Had a question for the community:

"Is there a preferable debounce count?"

Thought I would forward that.
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Originally Posted by Jonagold View Post

500 hz vs 1000 hz makes like 1-2 ms difference, seems marginal when 3310 -sensor in all implementations have 2 ms more delay and in FM15implementation has 7 ms delay.. Just saying..

It is actually more important that the polling rate is stable, g303 has true stable polling rate on 1000 hz, other mice that I have tested it is often more stable on 500 hz than 1000 hz.. That is probably what they meant by it. They couldn't guarantee stable 1000 hz polling rate for every motherboard so they decided to keep it on 500 hz..

One reason I don't use my fm is a. Bc it broke and fm support isn't responding and when it worked I did not use it because the sensor felt "off" or it didn't feel right. High lod made me steer clear along with what feels like sensor delay but idk if that's really what it is. I just really hope the scream one is everything they are hyping it up to be.
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Seriously boys I think my F5 key broke on my keyboard...let go fm
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Originally Posted by FinalmouseJude View Post

Tournament pros will be available tonight from what I am hearing.
https://youtu.be/PYb2IdrN-ns
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Originally Posted by Maximillion View Post

https://youtu.be/PYb2IdrN-ns

Haha I mean Jude is awesome and a good person but fm has gotta get it together with the release dates.
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I got to change my refresh interval from every hour to every 15 minutes now. Thanks for the update Jude.

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Heads up to any Canadian customers looks like the Tournament Pro does not ship to us yet............
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