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So then your company should have been listing the weights as 84-86 and 86-87 (heck go with the low number, that's fine). It's absolutely misleading to brag about your "Industry Leading Super-Lightweight" 74g mouse when you know that that's a misrepresentation compared to other companies' weight listings (who might weigh without that bit of cable inside since they're generally 2-3g less than actual rather than your 10-13g). A big reason why people have been excited about the Finalmouse offerings is because they're under the false impression that they're significantly lighter than other mice comparable in size, but that's not actually the case. No, you guys technically aren't lying, but you've been knowingly misleading and that's pretty crappy.

And as someone else mentioned you could just cut the cord off at the the mouse's exit anyway. That's the weight people want to know about.

Because sales will drop if they fix it. And american customers will demand refunds tongue.gif i can assume

Ermagerd, it's 86 grams not 80 g or 74g I feel cheated, I'll sue.
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I hope the Scream1 doesn't have any LEDs because they are useless and distracting to pros/competitive players.

Why can't FM get the side buttons "right"?

What don't you like about the side buttons ? So far early response has been pretty positive regarding the tournaments side buttons.
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What don't you like about the side buttons ? So far early response has been pretty positive regarding the tournaments side buttons.

They stick out too much from the shell. I think they stick out more than the side buttons of the Avior 7000. What happens when a left handed user wants to use the mouse?

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So then your company should have been listing the weights as 84-86 and 86-87 (heck go with the low number, that's fine). It's absolutely misleading to brag about your "Industry Leading Super-Lightweight" 74g mouse when you know that that's a misrepresentation compared to other companies' weight listings (who might weigh without that bit of cable inside since they're generally 2-3g less than actual rather than your 10-13g). A big reason why people have been excited about the Finalmouse offerings is because they're under the false impression that they're significantly lighter than other mice comparable in size, but that's not actually the case. No, you guys technically aren't lying, but you've been knowingly misleading and that's pretty crappy.

And as someone else mentioned you could just cut the cord off at the the mouse's exit anyway. That's the weight people want to know about.

I have said a while ago that the weight can't be as claimed. It isn't possible for a mouse that size to weigh so little and have side buttons. A lot of the weight comes from the PCBs. It's an obvious thing if you have used a few mice before. For a mouse to weigh in the 70g range it needs to be as small as the G100S and lack side buttons.

By the way, some mice have a ferrite inside.

This goes to show why you should ignore most of those Youtube "reviewers" who don't actually verify/test the mice they are reviewing. I don't do reviews because I can't be thorough as a review warrants -- I lack the stuff necessary and I won't spend my money to do reviews.
Edited by popups - 2/2/16 at 8:41am
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They stick out too much from the shell. I think they stick out more than the side buttons of the Avior 7000. What happens when a left handed user wants to use the mouse?

It's not ambi. They needn't worry about left handers.
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Button travel is a big part of the overall button feel.
And reducing the actual button size could potentially hurt the tactility/feel as well.

Also at the moment we do not market the tournament pro to left handed users since it was not designed for them.
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They stick out too much from the shell. I think they stick out more than the side buttons of the Avior 7000. What happens when a left handed user wants to use the mouse?

They better be good/creative with that ring finger so they do not accidentally press.

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It's not ambi. They needn't worry about left handers.

It's Ambi enough that a lefty will more than likely try it despite no right side 4 & 5 buttons.
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They stick out too much from the shell. I think they stick out more than the side buttons of the Avior 7000. What happens when a left handed user wants to use the mouse?
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Originally Posted by FinalmouseJude View Post

Button travel is a big part of the overall button feel.
And reducing the actual button size could potentially hurt the tactility/feel as well.

Also at the moment we do not market the tournament pro to left handed users since it was not designed for them.

I think buttons sticking out is sort of and opinion thing. As long as they a re somewhat tactile and are not like the ergo they should great.

Any news on the scream one soooooo hyped
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It's not ambi. They needn't worry about left handers.

What is Dazed going to do? biggrin.gif

So left handed users shouldn't buy the Scream1 because the side buttons are on the left only? If there was side buttons on the right then they should buy it? Maybe the side buttons were meant to be on the right until they realized it was going to be too bothersome? It wouldn't have added a lot of weight to make the side button/CPI button PCB have two more switches.

From what I have seen towards the end of 2015, most pro players choose a right hand ergonomic mouse over a symmetrical mouse. I thought the FK and ZA would be more popular, but it turns out once the EC2 was updated a lot of people started using it. In other words, why release a right hand only symmetrical mouse in the first place when you could have created an IE3 shaped mouse? Scream doesn't want a symmetrical mouse, he wants a right hand ergonomic mouse. A Scream1 is pointless for Scream once the Scream2 comes out.

I would also choose an ergonomic mouse over an ambidextrous mouse if the shape was good. I only use ambidextrous mice for the ease of aligning the sensor in my hand. I like something that fills my palm, but is small in size and is lighter weight. An ambidextrous mouse needs to be larger to fill the hand, thus making it heavier.
Edited by popups - 2/2/16 at 9:04am
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No, you are right, but knowing FM's track record, they "technically" don't need to make the shape better because it is not marketed as ambi therefore they don't need to make it ambi.
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It was marketed as ambi until we saw the missing side buttons on the opposite side, then the uproar began. lol

I get what you are saying though Bruzan.
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