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post #4251 of 4666
My "problem" is my ring finger is super long so I have to scrunch it really hard to put its contact area directly in line with the sensor and my thumb, no matter what mouse I've used so far. The FM 2015 was the closest, but not actually far forwards enough imo.
post #4252 of 4666
"I tried finger-tip gripping G303 by placing the sensor in-between those two fingers and I end up almost palming/clawing it. My palm area touches the mouse from the side. If it'd be 5 mm higher I'd be palming it. Rival 100 is much better in this regard since it leaves much more space for me to actually pull the mouse towards my palm. My hand is 18.5 cm and my fingers are probably 45% of that. Maybe the G303 shape is quite bad for this."

This is why i've been saying the g303 is not a fingertip mouse, more of a claw or claw/palm. The aggressive sides force you to hold it further up than one would like for pure fingertip.

I'm waiting for someone who uses pure fingertip to give their impressions on the new Finalmouse shape wise.
post #4253 of 4666
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Originally Posted by FinalmouseJude View Post

Tournament pros will be available tonight from what I am hearing.

1000hz does give a different feel for me and others we have talked to. For the s1 we are developing the firmware from the ground up and we are setting the polling rate to a fixed 1000hz.

This is actually convenient for the 3360 because I believe a lot of the sensors timings are at default 1ms. Not sure on the specifics just what I heard.

Also at the moment we are developing a debounce logic for the buttons which we hope will be very low latency. Had a question for the community:

"Is there a preferable debounce count?"

Thought I would forward that.

Almost all logitech mice are miles ahead of the rest of the industry in terms of click latency. Anything near logitechs level and I'll be very very happy. The only other popular mice that come close to that are a few steelseries ones (ikari, xai/sensei with smoothing set to 0). If the s1 can have the same click latency as say a g303 or a g402 or 502 without developing double clicking issues as quickly as deathadders seem to, that will be a major plus.
post #4254 of 4666
^ The current ergo and pro already have very good button logic and click latency. Nearly identical to the brand you mentioned.

We hope to get our new button logic to be even faster smile.gif
post #4255 of 4666
Could anyone provide us with Tournament Pro, WMO and IO side by side comparisons?
post #4256 of 4666
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Originally Posted by FinalmouseJude View Post

^ The current ergo and pro already have very good button logic and click latency. Nearly identical to the brand you mentioned.

We hope to get our new button logic to be even faster smile.gif

Really nice. I asked a question a few pages back, you might have missed it so I'll ask it again.

How does your 3 year warranty work for people outside US? I'm from India and plan on getting the s1 as soon as its launched. Will I still be covered by warranty? Also, do you have any plans of releasing your products in India in the near future? Right now, the ergo from amazon will cost me 100$ including shipping and customs.
post #4257 of 4666
Yes the warranty covers manufacturer defect for all original owners regardless of location for 3 years.

We are going to start distributing globally to retailers fairly soon, but it's a big endeavor so there may be delays.
post #4258 of 4666
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Originally Posted by bruzanHD View Post

It's not ambi. They needn't worry about left handers.
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Originally Posted by PhiZaRoaH View Post

They better be good/creative with that ring finger so they do not accidentally press.
It's Ambi enough that a lefty will more than likely try it despite no right side 4 & 5 buttons.
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Originally Posted by FinalmouseJude View Post

Also at the moment we do not market the tournament pro to left handed users since it was not designed for them.

Is this guy left handed?


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Originally Posted by wareya View Post

>Sure it'll be easier to track fast moving targets, but precision will be lost

so you lower your sensitivity to make up for it

don't see what's hard about that tbh

People have bad habits and physical limitations. Rather than improve they rely on other things.
Edited by popups - 2/2/16 at 6:28pm
post #4259 of 4666
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Originally Posted by popups View Post

People have bad habits and physical limitations. Rather than improve they rely on other things.
Improve != change to something else. There is nothing that makes higher up sensor position better for everyone... It's all preference, so we should stop arguing about it.

Also, why do that when you can buy a mouse with a lower positioned sensor? Just put a higher sensitivity if the sensor position seems too low for you. I don't see the difference in this analogy vs. the one suggested by wareya. There is no perfect grip, no perfect sensitivity and no perfect sensor position.

edit: removed parts to stop this nonsense...
Edited by trism - 2/2/16 at 6:48pm
post #4260 of 4666
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Originally Posted by trism View Post

Improve != change to something else. There is nothing that makes higher up sensor position better for everyone... It's all preference, so we should stop arguing about it.

Also, why do that when you can buy a mouse with a lower positioned sensor? Just put a higher sensitivity if the sensor position seems too low for you. I don't see the difference in this analogy vs. the one suggested by wareya. There is no perfect grip, no perfect sensitivity and no perfect sensor position.

edit: removed parts to stop this nonsense...

Increasing sensitivity is more detrimental than decreasing it.

Also, some people play games that utilize mostly wrist movements. Hence why they like the WMO more than other mice.

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Originally Posted by trism View Post

Holy cow lower your sensitivity or get a higher CPI and compensate via the sensitivity value. You are missing headshots at long ranges with that sensitivity value. Talking about precisely tracking tiny heads when you have over 4 sensitivity is pointless.

Edited by popups - 2/2/16 at 6:58pm
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