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I realized from 0 day about the logo wink.gif

It's probably not even their logo. It's even on the pcb of the dream machines mouse. Probably factory logo or something
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It's probably not even their logo. It's even on the pcb of the dream machines mouse. Probably factory logo or something


One of the reasons we are looking to move manufacturing stateside is to avoid having instances of our PCBs or other designs (most importantly scream one firmware ) circulating around Shenzhen. Unfortunately no tier 2 assembly factory overseas offers good IP protection frown.gif I was planning on heading to Shenzhen and visiting some of the tier 1s like laview but from what we are hearing they aren't a good option at the moment either.

Hopefully by next month we have our factory operations in the states finalized as it would be a major improvement. I'll post updates to the tumblr when I visit the factory

Edit: basically the more control you get over the development/engineering pipeline the less a tier 2 odm makes sense
Edited by FinalmouseJude - 2/12/16 at 1:06pm
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What do Logitech/SteelSeries do?
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What do Logitech/SteelSeries do?

Logitech manufactures in Taiwan in their own factory afaik.
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One of the reasons we are looking to move manufacturing stateside is to avoid having instances of our PCBs or other designs (most importantly scream one firmware ) circulating around Shenzhen. Unfortunately no tier 2 assembly factory overseas offers good IP protection frown.gif I was planning on heading to Shenzhen and visiting some of the tier 1s like laview but from what we are hearing they aren't a good option at the moment either.

Hopefully by next month we have our factory operations in the states finalized as it would be a major improvement. I'll post updates to the tumblr when I visit the factory

Edit: basically the more control you get over the development/engineering pipeline the less a tier 2 odm makes sense

Hold up.

So initially, you took another company's molds, slap a sticker over their shells, use completely untouched factory parts down to the firmware coupled with a price gouge and false advertising (even falsely advertising the production aspects).

But now you're complaining that you don't want your stuff circulating around when that was - and to a degree still is - your model of business.

Not only wallet squeezing but also crappy people too. Where were these morals when you were blindly plucking bits around Shenzhen?
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Hold up.

So initially, you took another company's molds, slap a sticker over their shells, use completely untouched factory parts down to the firmware coupled with a price gouge and false advertising (even falsely advertising the production aspects).

But now you're complaining that you don't want your stuff circulating around when that was - and to a degree still is - your model of business.

Not only wallet squeezing but also crappy people too. Where were these morals when you were blindly plucking bits around Shenzhen?


Their business model revolves around creating their own special firmware and their own special sensor which will likely just be a tweaked version of another existing sensor. They'll then proceed to market them as uber e-sports super pro optimized blah blah which you can only buy from Finalmouse for $90 and optimized for Finalmouse surfaces.


Edited by Dreyka - 2/12/16 at 3:53pm
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Hold up.

So initially, you took another company's molds, slap a sticker over their shells, use completely untouched factory parts down to the firmware coupled with a price gouge and false advertising (even falsely advertising the production aspects).

But now you're complaining that you don't want your stuff circulating around when that was - and to a degree still is - your model of business.

Not only wallet squeezing but also crappy people too. Where were these morals when you were blindly plucking bits around Shenzhen?
Is this actually surprising to you? When a small startup first steps into the market with barely any experience and not a whole lot of funding, of course they're going to go for the safest least expensive option. Now that they've had some success, have earned some more money, and have some experience, they're willing to put a bigger investment into their products. In any case, would you rather they just stick to making mice out of oem shells from cheapo factories or would you rather they try to offer something more unique? I can understand people being upset about their ergo mouse, as you pointed out it is just a rebranded, light weight oem shell with a decent sensor, but I really can't see how you can call them immoral for trying to make their own unique products especially if doing so will help with their QC issues which right now is most people's biggest complaint with their mice.
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barely any experience
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>Created on 2011-09-16
Well then... I can definitely see how people would be upset about their ergo mouse and marketing bs lol. Still, I don't see how it's a bad thing for them to try to make their own mice. If suck then we'll find out and they probably won't sell well, assuming people actually look for unbiased reviews. If it's good then it's a win-win for everybody.
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I basically lost all interest in that mouse, the Screm One, or any other further FinalMouse product.
I had tolerance for their first mouse, could see and accept that it might have such flaws.

But seeing how it all turns out for those new products now combind with their ways of doing their business is just really driving me far far away.
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