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If you don't tell someone they're doing something wrong then they will never know, and most companies close their eyes and plug their ears until the racket is so loud it can no longer be ignored, so don't take people bringing up the same things over and over again as whining, we're not whining, we are voicing our concerns and if our voice isn't heard then we do our best to make it heard. FM is a lot better than a lot of other companies in the fact that they can admit that their products can use some changing, it's obvious because they're dropping the 3310 and putting a 3360 in a mouse (oooo my excitement for that.) and they're developing their own shapes now, as well as changing the MCU to remove the smoothing.

They listen better than most companies and I do give them that, they're not pulling an SS at least and shoving the same trash in the same mouse with another colored shell over and over and over again expecting approval instead of taking care of the actual problems, that being said there has been problems with FM's marketing where they have said things that aren't entirely true (I'm not saying they're intentionally lying, maybe they're honest mistakes. Benefit of the doubt.) like the weight of the ergo being measured with a few missing portions of the mouse (has that been fixed yet?) and that one tumblr post where they say the 3360 has a static framerate(?) and that happens.

I'm happy that they at least listen to their customers to an extent, most of these bigger corporations do the same thing over and over again which results in the same complaints, Logitech and their alien shapes which fit some people very well, Razer and their poor quality control, Steelseries and their...what do they do right again?
    
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Originally Posted by IlIkeJuice View Post

I wouldn't mind if it was $30-$35. A low budget Coolermaster perhaps. But even these have better QC and attention to detail. And for 'pro' aspirations, that's a cardinal sin. It's suppose to be a tool. Reliable, well built, with good materials that withstand heavy, continuons usage. That's what makes pro stuff expensive and desirable.

My FM is a $30 product. Zowies too BTW. There is nothing 'pro' about these. Zowies are better built at least.

I wouldn't go as far as saying Zowie mice are a $30 product. I haven't paid over $60 for a Zowie mouse. Current Zowie mice are more like a $45 product.
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i don't think anyone is saying no criticisms shouldn't be made. i believe the point is the snobby, disgusting attitude towards finalmouse and their reps here.

finalmouse will change and fix things with criticism, it's the free market. if they keep making garbage, it won't sell and they will be out of business.

also, do you people ever consider the cost of creating a mouse shell, versus buying an existing one? it's much more expensive to initially start creating shells, it requires a lot more capital than buying a lot of existing shells. unless you're given free money from a rich friend, you're going to have to budget correctly and not spend a stupid amount of money creating a shell. you work your way up and start small, like fm is doing.
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I wouldn't call FM or Feenix a company. I wouldn't say they weren't lying intentionally. I wouldn't say they're trying to improve anything. And I doubt very much they are able to develop their own shape. I hope for FM fans I'm wrong regarding future products.
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I wouldn't call FM or Feenix a company. I wouldn't say they weren't lying intentionally. I wouldn't say they're trying to improve anything. And I doubt very much they are able to develop their own shape. I hope for FM fans I'm wrong regarding future products.
Yeah, atleast those much hated companies like Logitech, Razer or Steelseries have their own shells, meaning they have something unique and they can call it their own innovation without lying...

OEM shell and marketing it as: We designed (FM) best ergonomical shape for gamers is just pure BS, much worse than the marketing that "mainstream" manufacturers like Logitech, Razer or Steelseries do...

And FM basicly admits it's not happy with the quality of their product stating, that their planning changing factories, what about these early adopters (could call it crowdfunding), how are you (FM) gonna thank the customers, that you basicly cheap out vs the new customers who will get better quality product if FM changes factories...
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Any 1000hz/mcu smoothing switch or mouse feet available for the FM2015 yet?
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what about these early adopters (could call it crowdfunding), how are you (FM) gonna thank the customers, that you basicly cheap out vs the new customers who will get better quality product if FM changes factories...

The 1000hz/mcu smoothing switch seems to me to be an easy way for Finalmouse to show their appreciation for early adopter support, in fact it's something they said they would make available when the mcu smoothing discussion first came up. But they don't seem to want to go down that route now for fear of making their newer products not seem like a worthwhile enough upgrade to FM2015 users.
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Hello All,

In regards to the replacement mousefeet. We figure that with the growing population of FM owners a third party will soon provide FM feet on their own.... With the current demand for them we don't see why this would not pop up in the marketplace very soon. That being said if we do not start seeing FM marketed mousefeet within the next month or two we will provide them ourselves and establish a point of sale to purchase them.

Kind Regards,
Jude

Going on 6 months and two further Finalmouse product releases since this post, still waiting for those mousefeet! rolleyes.gif
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They should have at least made the TP use IntelliMouse feet.
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Originally Posted by IlIkeJuice View Post

I still use my Zowie and FM. They are light, plug-and-play, and no have problem tracking. No issues with button thus far. But pro? LOL.
"plug and play"
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also, do you people ever consider the cost of creating a mouse shell, versus buying an existing one? it's much more expensive to initially start creating shells, it requires a lot more capital than buying a lot of existing shells. unless you're given free money from a rich friend, you're going to have to budget correctly and not spend a stupid amount of money creating a shell. you work your way up and start small, like fm is doing.

But that is exactly the reason why people say that FM is overpriced... they get flak because the profit margin they go for is huge. But then you also get 3 years warranty, I don't know how that decreases it again, considering that some people already got 3 units replaced.

Personally I don't mind their marketing although a lot of it is factually incorrect. At the end of the day the product itself is probably just what the people who go for that type of marketing want. I'm still intrigued by the shape.
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But then you also get 3 years warranty

Honestly i'd get consistent good build quality over 3 years warranty any time.
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