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Roughly £100 Each GPU perhaps a tad more. I am not really going for powerhouse as that would cost a fair bit of cash 6x 980's would be rather expensive haha.

 

 

No problem and good to hear :) 

 

I am just doing some research to see if AMD has an equivalent card performance wise, granted it will not be as power friendly. 

 

The direct competitor to the 750 Ti is the R9 270/X. In Windows at least. Over here, 270s are a tad more expensive (and less power efficient).

 

GPU PPD Database | CPU PPD Database

 

(you can sort on GPU and PPD ;))

 

Adding a bit to the advice Wheezo, lanofsong and nagle gave you:

 

Maxwell is not yet optimized for the latest Core 18 folding cores. This is due to a bug in the OpenCL drivers of nVidia. When nVidia fixes this, Maxwell GPUs should perform much better than they are now (seeing as Core 18 is the future). On Core 17 they are currently the best.

 

As mentioned earlier, nVidia's OpenCL drivers are coded in such a way that each GPU really needs to be fed by at least 1 CPU thread. If you decide to run 6 GPUs, you should keep that in mind.

 

Due to the quick return nature of the folding project, fewer fast GPUs are both more cost effective and power efficient to run than a lot of tiny GPUs. Faster GPUs will get the same work done as multiple GPUs that perform similar in parallel, but due to returning each WU faster they receive a larger bonus (exponentially).

 

Hardware in general, granted they have proper driver support, perform better in Linux. AMD doesn't have very good drivers in Linux so unfortunately they don't benefit from folding in Linux and even see a performance hit. On the other hand, their drivers don't require a CPU thread to be allocated to each GPU and they perform well in Windows. Stanford does plan on bringing out new CUDA uints in the future however, so that will most likely give nVidia GPUs an edge.

 

From this you'll probably get that fewer fast nVidia GPUs are the way to go atm. Maybe the upcoming GTX 960 will be an option. As mentioned earlier, a GTX 970 or 980 would perform best at this point in time. And if you decide to go with nVidia GPUs, you should really consider running Linux to boost your performance (which can be seen in the database up above). Do note that the boost in PPD from folding in Linux gets larger as the GPU gets faster (again due to the exponential effect of the QRB bonus). It's also not very difficult to set up, but does require some effort.

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Some great info there! Thanks very much for that. I think I will wait for the 960 to be released and see how they perform, as they will be a midrange card the cost also should not be astronomical smile.gif
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Aww, I couldn't give much of the advice already given, I was busy dealing with very unruly customers all day. I don't know why people think they will be able to come into any retail store on Christmas Eve and be waited on hand and foot.

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Lol just close the store and tell then to leave. I hear that works.I am hoping the 960's come out around jan or feb, im also waitin on Big Maxwell or 390x for the gaming rig...been saving. May fold on that two with my 4790K at 4.7ghz. Few points to be had.
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Some great info there! Thanks very much for that. I think I will wait for the 960 to be released and see how they perform, as they will be a midrange card the cost also should not be astronomical smile.gif

 

Glad I could help :thumb:

 

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Aww, I couldn't give much of the advice already given, I was busy dealing with very unruly customers all day. I don't know why people think they will be able to come into any retail store on Christmas Eve and be waited on hand and foot.

 

Had that as well when I worked in a hardware store. From the customer's perspective he/she is only in the store for a couple of minutes and expects you to receive them with open arms and make them feel like royalty for the time they spend in the store. For you it's just customer #9001 and you want to go home/take a break as soon as possible. Epic events ensue around closing time :lachen:

 

What does the store you work in sell?

 

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Lol just close the store and tell then to leave. I hear that works.I am hoping the 960's come out around jan or feb, im also waitin on Big Maxwell or 390x for the gaming rig...been saving. May fold on that two with my 4790K at 4.7ghz. Few points to be had.

 

I think the last news was around January, but those were rumors IIRC.

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Pretty much everything console gaming related. That is XB1, XB360, PS3, PS4, Wii, Wii U, DS, 3DS, all of the accessories, and then we also sell tablets and smartphones. All that stuff can be brought back to the store and sold. The question I get asked the most is "Which system is best?" and I almost always want to answer PC, but the answer we are supposed to give is "get what your friends have", and if that doesn't work, we explain exclusives. It is a good job, but this time of year is absolute hell. And each customer needs to see a smiling face when they walk up. That smiling face is hard to produce when there are 100+ people in a store that can really only fit ~50 at one time.

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Some great info there! Thanks very much for that. I think I will wait for the 960 to be released and see how they perform, as they will be a midrange card the cost also should not be astronomical smile.gif

 

Glad I could help :thumb:

 

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Aww, I couldn't give much of the advice already given, I was busy dealing with very unruly customers all day. I don't know why people think they will be able to come into any retail store on Christmas Eve and be waited on hand and foot.

 

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What does the store you work in sell?

 

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Lol just close the store and tell then to leave. I hear that works.I am hoping the 960's come out around jan or feb, im also waitin on Big Maxwell or 390x for the gaming rig...been saving. May fold on that two with my 4790K at 4.7ghz. Few points to be had.

 

I think the last news was around January, but those were rumors IIRC.

 

Yeah I knew the rumors were for early new year, if its Jan then that would be nice but I am thinking Feb in all honesty. 

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Yeah I knew the rumors were for early new year, if its Jan then that would be nice but I am thinking Feb in all honesty. 

 

Yeah, there aren't a lot of leaks really. Last I heard was Jan 22nd. I hope it's true.

 

Are you going to run Linux?

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Linux is something I will consider running yes. A linux noob really, though have used it before but your linked guide will obviously help, ill read more in depth soon. More importantly I will want a way to remote into a linux based machine from Windows, again somerhing ive never looked into lol
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Not a problem to do at all.

 

From Windows -> Linux I use Teamviewer. From iPad to Linux/Windows I use Splashtop. You can also use PuTTY/SSH. But yes, take your time. It isn't completely a piece of cake, but if you don't plan on doing too much crazy things you'll manage. When you have the parts and are ready to install you can also shoot me a PM. There are also a lot of developments wrt drivers and tools on nVidia's part in Linux (overclocking, fan control, overvoltage etc.)

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