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ATI, AMD, whatever...

Downloaded and installed Omega 14.12 from their website. Started up the CCC, looked at the Properties (Digital Flat-Panel) tab, and imagine my surprise when I saw that GPU Scaling was not greyed out! I was like, "...da hell? They finally decided to fix that after, what, ten years?"

> Checked "Enable GPU up-scaling"
> Selected "Use Centered Timings"

Started up an old game that only displays at 4:3, and it was duly stretched across the screen... :/

Double checked everything, tried again, no joy. Desired scaling options are selected, but CCC ignores it, not only for the old games, but also on the BIOS screen on boot-up, and anything else that doesn't display at monitor resolution. Tried the old "non-native resolution" workaround, but even that doesn't work now, though it worked in all prior versions of the driver.

Also noticed that OpenGL games (IL-2: 1946) don't respond to AA and AF settings in the CCC since 14.12 was installed, though it does respond when running in DirectX mode.

Yes, the old driver was removed before installing the new one. smile.gif

Just what is it with ATI/AMD and this inexcusably persistent issue with GPU scaling? Ugh...

Thoughts, and (I'm afraid to ask) solutions?

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been using gpu scaling since 4555. went to 5830, 6870, 3 7950s, 7970, and 2 290s. never an issue with scaling. once or twice i had to use the sliders. took less than minute.
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I ran custom 3840x1646 21:9 resolution on a 4K display for better FOV and framerate in various FPSes perfectly fine with previous drivers (without scaling). Then installed omega drivers, and no matter the setting, GPU scaling cannot be unticked (re-ticks itself when clicking apply) and the selected scaling option is ignored, it instead just stretches the image to the native resolution.

I'll have to upgrade to stable 14.11 rather than using this unfinished experimental crap.

We could complain to AMD, I doubt they'll care though :/
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Yeah, Omega is a bit defective right now. I have that same issue where Scaling will not uncheck itself when you click on it.

I reverted back to the driver that came with the card on DVD, and scaling works fine as long as I use the non-native resolution workaround trick. Had other issues with Omega as well (no response to AA and AF settings when using OpenGL, etc.)

Staying away from Omega for now...
    
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Originally Posted by Treetop64 View Post

Yeah, Omega is a bit defective right now. I have that same issue where Scaling will not uncheck itself when you click on it.

I reverted back to the driver that came with the card on DVD, and scaling works fine as long as I use the non-native resolution workaround trick. Had other issues with Omega as well (no response to AA and AF settings when using OpenGL, etc.)

Staying away from Omega for now...

which one? this?

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which one? this?


Yes. That. I know what I'm talking about.

"Enable GPU up-scaling" will not keep itself unchecked when you click to un-check it and click on [Apply]:

> You click on it, checkmark disappears, then you click on [Apply] and the checkmark appears again.

> When leaving GPU up-scaling checked on, you click to select either centered timings or maintain aspect ratio, then click [Apply], but apps or games that run on 4:3 still get stretched across the screen. The selected settings are ignored.

> Using the old non-native resolution workaround doesn't work anymore with Omega 14.12. Switch to a non-native resolution, select your desired options under GPU scaling and click [Apply], the switch back to native resolution. However, apps and games that display at 4:3 now are stretched across the screen. Again, the selected settings are ignored.

I've used that third part for years, over many driver updates, to work around the GPU scaling issue and have apps that display at 4:3 display correctly. It was necessary because under the monitor's native resolution the GPU scaling options were greyed-out. This has been a common issue among ATI card users for years now. Google it.

If you, rdr09, are not experiencing these issues, then congratulations. I'm happy for you. Count yourself among the fortunate.

Thank you...
Edited by Treetop64 - 12/31/14 at 7:52pm
    
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Yes. That. I know what I'm talking about.

"Enable GPU up-scaling" will not keep itself unchecked when you click to un-check it and click on [Apply]:

> You click on it, checkmark disappears, then you click on [Apply] and the checkmark appears again.

> When leaving GPU up-scaling checked on, you click to select either centered timings or maintain aspect ratio, then click [Apply], but apps or games that run on 4:3 still get stretched across the screen. The selected settings are ignored.

> Using the old non-native resolution workaround doesn't work anymore with Omega 14.12. Switch to a non-native resolution, select your desired options under GPU scaling and click [Apply], the switch back to native resolution. However, apps and games that display at 4:3 now are stretched across the screen. Again, the selected settings are ignored.

I've used that third part for years, over many driver updates, to work around the GPU scaling issue and have apps that display at 4:3 display correctly. It was necessary because under the monitor's native resolution the GPU scaling options were greyed-out. This has been a common issue among ATI card users for years now. Google it.

If you, rdr09, are not experiencing these issues, then congratulations. I'm happy for you. Count yourself among the fortunate.

Thank you...

have you tried 14.11.2?

does not really affect me 'cause all my games are stretched.
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[...]

have you tried 14.11.2?

does not really affect me 'cause all my games are stretched.

None of my games are stretched. Dell U2410's, Dell U2412, Dell U3010...

Wide Mode > Aspect / Fill / 1:1... wink.gif
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None of my games are stretched. Dell U2410's, Dell U2412, Dell U3010...

Wide Mode > Aspect / Fill / 1:1... wink.gif

i think that's what i meant. panel full gaming.

@op, my sigs have two HDDs each. they are imaged but different gpu drivers. one with the latest beta and the other the latest WHQL. this is not only to make sure i can game continually but also to make sure uninterrupted use of the PCs for work and school. redundancy. HDDs fail and when they do . . . reinstalling os and other apps becomes a pain in the arse.

you can use a free version of macrium to image a drive.
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Hello!

I had the same exact problem, down to the letter: the "Enable GPU up-scaling" tickbox not being untickable and that despite setting "Maintain aspect ratio" my older 4:3 games got stretched to my 16:10 monitor. I've tried to uninstall the driver package from the Control Panel and reinstall versions 14.4, 14.9, 14.11.2 Beta, 14.12, none of them worked. 14.4 even has the grayed-out issue OP mentioned.

I've done the following things and now I have my black bars, pretty sure the first one fixed it:
  1. Uninstall all AMD software from Control Panel -> Uninstall programs.
    After I was done with this, I used the latest version of this tool to clean any remaining AMD files and registry entries off my computer:
    http://www.guru3d.com/files-details/display-driver-uninstaller-download.html
    The tool asks if you want to reboot into safe mode, be sure to do that. When you're in safe mode, select ATI from the drop-down menu and choose the "Highly recommended" cleaning option, the one that cleans and reboots. After I was done with this, I installed driver package version 14.9, which isn't the latest one. Download links for older drivers are available from the current driver's download page:

    It might work with the recent 14.12 driver, I just never tried it.

  2. I have 2 DVI outputs on my graphic card, I plugged my cable into the other one.
  3. Disabled the motherboard's Intel integrated GPU in my BIOS. (Not sure this one counts, since GPU scaling worked for me before it started stretching games and I always had the Intel GPU enabled.)
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