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ASRock Z97 Extreme9 or Asus Maximus VII Formula?

post #1 of 15
Thread Starter 
I think I can safely narrow it down to 2 boards, however I am still open to suggestions.

Its mostly between the Maximus VII Formula and ASRock Extreme9.

Both have PS/2 connector.
Both have SATA Express.
Intel Network Controller.

Formula pros:

- Armor
- Wifi built-in
- Better ESD protection?

Cons:

- The way they made the wifi with super small wires is really cheap.
- No Ultra M.2, I am not sure if that will be a standard eventually.

Extreme9 pros:

- Ultra M.2
- 12 phases (but I heard they arent digital so it could be worse?)

Cons:

- Got to buy a standalone 802.11ac card.

Is one of them better quality than the other? I really cant decide.
Edited by MasterBash - 12/26/14 at 2:35pm
post #2 of 15
ASRock Extreme 9 pros:

More PCI-E Lanes
- 2* 16X or Quad Sli capable board due PLX chip addition.
Dual intel lan
Ultra M2 4X

VRM is hybrid analog-digital no cons at this point. But is not a 12 true phase VRM is a 6*2 phase VRM.


In my opinion as an extreme 9 owner, Asrock board is more workstation oriented while Maximus VII Formula is more OC stuff. For gaming the Asrock one wins in the hardware field but Asus has some interesting software tricks.
Edited by pr0orz1337 - 1/2/15 at 2:25pm
post #3 of 15
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the reply.

I didnt say anything about dual intel lan, because I will just use one of them, so I didnt put it under pros. Same goes with SLI, I will not use it, only one video card.

Ultra M.2 is definitely a good thing... We simply need something affordable at this point to use the speed of Ulta M.2.

However,

My video card is 3 slots so I may not be able to use some slots.

I have the NH-D14, I don't know if the first pci-e x16 slots will be blocked by the cooler.

To go along with my 3 slots video card (accelero extreme 3 cooler), I have a sound card and (since it doesnt have wifi unlike the Maximus VII Formula) I will have to buy a wifi card to use in a PCI Express x16 slot.

The spacing is a bit weird on the Extreme9, so hopefully everything will work fine without blocking airflow to video card or something. I don't have this problem with my current VI Formula.

I have a 4770k and with my current board, Maximus VI Formula, I am unable to get above 4.2ghz no matter how high the voltages are (I tried everything that mattered from in-depth guides), so I believe I am CPU limited for than the board limiting me. I don't think an Extreme9 would be problematic when it comes to reaching my current overclock, right?

I play games most of the times on this computer. I want the best gaming performance I can get, but also a bit futureproof (I know there isnt really anything futureproof when it comes to computers). Do you still recommend the Extreme9 for what I do (games)?
post #4 of 15
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I have a 4770k and with my current board, Maximus VI Formula, I am unable to get above 4.2ghz no matter how high the voltages are (I tried everything that mattered from in-depth guides), so I believe I am CPU limited for than the board limiting me.I don't think an Extreme9 would be problematic when it comes to reaching my current overclock, right?
If you have problems to achieve 4,2 GHz with an Asus VI Formula, I think that probably the problem isn't the mobo but the CPU chip. Have you tried to delid it?

I've a 4690K at exactly 4,2 GHz fresh & stable over my extreme 9. Heavy OC for a mobo and from my point of view starts above 4,6 with a good CPU chip and the proper cooling system. Extreme 9 can surely handle 4,2 GHz OC

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Originally Posted by MasterBash View Post

I play games most of the times on this computer. I want the best gaming performance I can get, but also a bit futureproof (I know there isnt really anything futureproof when it comes to computers). Do you still recommend the Extreme9 for what I do (games)?
Well, in my oppinion there is no mobo more futureproof for gaming price/performance in the z97 range than this mobo. But if you don't plan to use SLI or crossfire in your rig, extreme 6 can perform the job you need and saves you some bucks.
Edited by pr0orz1337 - 12/29/14 at 1:58pm
post #5 of 15
Thread Starter 
Yes, I am limited by my chip and its delidded.

Price is not an issue, but I do want quality and a bit more futureproofing. The only thing (to me) that the Extreme6/9 has over the Maximus VII Formula is Ultra M.2.

Is it worth it over 10 Gb M.2 / SATA Express? Afaik, only Samsung has something that can use higher than 10 Gb that is somewhat affordable.

I read the Maximus VII Formula has better VRM's, but I have no doubt the ASRock will reach 4.2ghz without problems.

Choice would be so simple if the Asus board had Ultra M.2 .

I just dont know how much value I should give to Ultra M.2... I usually upgrade every 2-3 years.

I don't think 8x pci express 3.0 is slower than 16x at the moment when it comes to current video cards.

Apparently the Maximus VII Formula doesnt support 80mm+ m.2... =(

So do you think I would have problems with Extreme6/9 with a 3 slot video card, 802.11ac card, creative zxr? I have the NH-D14 so I dont know if the first slot will be blocked or not.

So at best a 3 card setup, which will be sharing pci-e lanes. Does it matter where I put my video card in when it comes to temp or latency? (obviously, I am going to use a x16 3.0 slot, however on the Extreme9 in a triple card setup the only 16x slot is the 4th one). I heard the PLX adds a lot of latency though. frown.gif

I will look at the extreme6 too
Edited by MasterBash - 12/29/14 at 7:10pm
post #6 of 15
Maximus VII Formula is really nice, but if Extreme6/9 works for you, save your money and fill up on other parts!
post #7 of 15
Thread Starter 
I decided to add the Asus Z97 Deluxe as one of my choices.

I read the board has 16 VRM's and very big passive heatsink with a very good and stable BIOS.

Unfortunately it doesn't have Ultra M.2, but Asus apparently came out with an addon PCI-E card which allows the use of M.2 storage devices.

It doesn't have a PS/2 port but I can deal with that.

I am a competitive gamer, so I am a bit worried about the PLX chip on the Deluxe/Extreme9... Will I notice the latency difference?

Any thoughts?
post #8 of 15
Thread Starter 
Bump. Any thoughts on the Asus Z97 Deluxe? Apparently its higher quality than other boards, or thats what I read somewhere.
post #9 of 15
I originally was going to buy the deluxe, but after comparing found the Formula has better audio and was cheaper. (No NFC support though). The only real draw back now is the red color scheme..... But with the Noctua it's basically covered up anyway.

The ROG BIOS/fan support is pretty cool, not sure if it carries over to the deluxe though.
post #10 of 15
Check out the comparison from ASUS.

http://youtu.be/o1uWKuI5BJw?list=UUgTTyN54Hljm7TqD13q8FEg
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