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Good external DACs outperform soundscards by a mile. Even high-end cards like the STX-II from ASUS can't compete with external DACs ;-)
Essence STX II destroy all 90-120$ DAC !
you need high end DAC for outperform Essence.
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Essence STX II destroy all 90-120$ DAC !
you need high end DAC for outperform Essence.

Sorry but I doubt this. I have the Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium HD, which has essentially the same DAC as the Essence STX II. My Maverick Audio Tubemagic D1 ($130 DAC/amp/preamp, speculated to be CS4334 DAC) is a superior DAC even with stock opamps. It's not a huge upgrade but the DAC alone provides superior sound stage width and depth. I would assume the ODAC and Modi 2 (Uber?) are even better DACs than my D1.
 
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Good external DACs outperform soundscards by a mile. Even high-end cards like the STX-II from ASUS can't compete with external DACs ;-)
Essence STX II destroy all 90-120$ DAC !
you need high end DAC for outperform Essence.

Attempting to justify your purchase?

No, it doesn't destroy at all. And there's plenty of people who agree. Even if the STX-II was better than a $100 DAC (which is it isn't), the statement still doesn't make sense if you look at the price of the STX-II, as it's a very different price segment.
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Essence STX II destroy all 90-120$ DAC !
you need high end DAC for outperform Essence.

Sorry but I doubt this. I have the Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium HD, which has essentially the same DAC as the Essence STX II. My Maverick Audio Tubemagic D1 ($130 DAC/amp/preamp, speculated to be CS4334 DAC) is a superior DAC even with stock opamps. It's not a huge upgrade but the DAC alone provides superior sound stage width and depth. I would assume the ODAC and Modi 2 (Uber?) are even better DACs than my D1.

Agreed. I'm looking into buying a Modi 2 as well.
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Sorry but I doubt this. I have the Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium HD, which has essentially the same DAC as the Essence STX II.
Are you sure ?
DAC is not only chip .....rather the big difference is the circuit component quality.

And the chips is also different

Titanium HD = PCM 1794
Essence STX II = PCM1792A
Edited by senna89 - 1/7/15 at 2:51pm
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Sorry but I doubt this. I have the Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium HD, which has essentially the same DAC as the Essence STX II. My Maverick Audio Tubemagic D1 ($130 DAC/amp/preamp, speculated to be CS4334 DAC) is a superior DAC even with stock opamps. It's not a huge upgrade but the DAC alone provides superior sound stage width and depth. I would assume the ODAC and Modi 2 (Uber?) are even better DACs than my D1.
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No, it doesn't destroy at all. And there's plenty of people who agree. Even if the STX-II was better than a $100 DAC (which is it isn't), the statement still doesn't make sense if you look at the price of the STX-II, as it's a very different price segment.
Agreed. I'm looking into buying a Modi 2 as well.
And comparing the Fiio E10 ?


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Attempting to justify your purchase?
i still dont buy anything. wink.gif
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Are you sure ?
DAC is not only chip .....rather the big difference is the circuit component quality.

You are absolutely correct, although the general consensus is that the Titanium HD and Essence STX have essentially identical sound quality unless you have a headphone that needs the Essence's headphone amplifier. I don't know if the STX II has improved sound quality.
 
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Attempting to justify your purchase?

No, it doesn't destroy at all. And there's plenty of people who agree. Even if the STX-II was better than a $100 DAC (which is it isn't), the statement still doesn't make sense if you look at the price of the STX-II, as it's a very different price segment.
Agreed. I'm looking into buying a Modi 2 as well.
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You are absolutely correct, although the general consensus is that the Titanium HD and Essence STX have essentially identical sound quality unless you have a headphone that needs the Essence's headphone amplifier. I don't know if the STX II has improved sound quality.
maybe, im not sure, Creative products i know are not audiophile products, and also the quality of circuit is different.
STX II i think its an improvement.

Titanium HD

Essence STX II

Essence STX


im not an expert but also for the new ZXR, i read any reviews where reviwers said its competitive with Essence series, the comparisons usually is done with Phoebus.
Edited by senna89 - 1/7/15 at 3:06pm
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Sorry but I doubt this. I have the Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium HD, which has essentially the same DAC as the Essence STX II. My Maverick Audio Tubemagic D1 ($130 DAC/amp/preamp, speculated to be CS4334 DAC) is a superior DAC even with stock opamps. It's not a huge upgrade but the DAC alone provides superior sound stage width and depth. I would assume the ODAC and Modi 2 (Uber?) are even better DACs than my D1.

Necro thread I know, but how well does the modi 2 handle 5.1 surround and what would be the best adapter to convert stereo out to surround?
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Necro thread I know, but how well does the modi 2 handle 5.1 surround and what would be the best adapter to convert stereo out to surround?

It doesn't handle 5.1 surround at all.
You can feed it already processed 5.1 virtual surround for headphones thru optical tho, if you have a Soundblaster Z and get the Modi2 Uber.
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What about FiiO E10K ? It's one great affordable amp/DAC.
    
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