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Originally Posted by Chakravant View Post

I'm pretty certain all the panels had a 30 fps floor. None of the panels are new. They're in multiple monitors on the market right now. Please note there is a difference between a panel limitation and a monitor limitation. I have no idea what kind of "module" is in the backs of these FreeSync monitors. But these aren't special or new panels. The "glass" is all effectively off the shelf.

No, the floor is 40Hz on the 60Hz models. At least that is the case for the Samsung being shown off. It isn't true that the panels aren't new, either. The ones shown off in the video, yes, but Samsung have a range of panels not yet seen which will incorporate Adaptive-Sync.
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Just to add to that, those monitors with the 40hz minimun are IPS, the high response times of IPS are why you don't want to go lower than 40hz on them.The TN panels go down to 30hz just like with gsync.

Regardless of panel type, <40fps is never really going to feel smooth or fluid with or without variable refresh rate technology. A low frame rate is still a low frame rate regardless. Panel type has nothing to do with the limitation, indeed a lower frame rate lowers the pixel responsiveness required for optimal performance - it doesn't raise it.
Edited by PCM2 - 1/10/15 at 10:24am
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So you buy products because one Company has larger Market share? I dont care who has the most Market share. I buy the best product for the price that suit my needs. If AMD makes a better GPU i dont care if Nvidia has 90% Market share.

Going with the larger market share is more logical.

Further, it is more logical since one has been ACTUALLY released for about a year now and people have actually reviewed it who weren't under AMD's thumb and actually were able to use the hardware without some AMD person controlling every aspect of the demo.

Lastly, what is affordable to you and what is affordable for me are most likely totally different. I don't have any qualms about dropping upwards of $2500-3000 for water cooling, case mods, custom lighting systems, etc. So the notion of spending $200 more for G-Sync that has actually been independently reviewed to work is a drop in my budget bucket. I realize others don't have that kind of cash, and for them, MAYBE FreeSync makes sense. But honestly, if you are on that shoestring of a budget and worried about $200, you might want to wait until FreeSync is REALLY available and released and reviewed.

I'm just saying.
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actually its funny how people want to sell a certain brand as the best with really silly agruments:thumb:
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Going with the larger market share is more logical.
Uh, rational market behavior would be to buy the best product possible at your chosen price point. Brand wouldn't be of concern beyond the specific features privy to AMD/Nvidia owners.
 
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Uh, rational market behavior would be to buy the best product possible at your chosen price point. Brand wouldn't be of concern beyond the specific features privy to AMD/Nvidia owners.

Given how much money AMD has been loosing for YEARS, maybe going with the company that doesn't actually stand a chance of going bankrupt should factor in here too, don't ya think? rolleyes.gif
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That can factor in but you're arguing specific purchases as opposed to what rational purchasing behavior is. Ergo, you're still wrong about Nvidia being the rational purchase decision tongue.gif. Even AMD going under is like, your opinion man and some people will risk that but that's missing the forrest for the trees as I was saiyan.

You do have a point for the Nvidia vs. AMD decision, AMD going under could spell doom for performance in future games.

Personally, I don't think that's likely. Intel would try and find some way to fund AMD just so the x86-64 licenses don't get all weird or the govt. doesn't decide to have an antitrust suit against Intel.
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Wouldn't the AIBs still honour the warranty? How does AMD's financial situation come into it? thinking.gif

Buying a monitor now probably means upgrading it rather soon anyway as you can't have your cake and eat it wrt panel type, hz, response time etc etc.
Edited by Orangey - 1/10/15 at 6:38pm
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That's not the issue, AMD no longer being around to release driver updates is, so new games will no longer have optimized driver releases. And other bugs won't ever be fixed. New features never added.
 
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That's not the issue, AMD no longer being around to release driver updates is, so new games will no longer have optimized driver releases. And other bugs won't ever be fixed. New features never added.

Seriously? You have to think that hard not to buy AMD GPUs? If anything AMD driver have gotten better and better.
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Random thought - I wonder how OLED technology handles low refresh rates in regards to the minimum usable refresh rate. thinking.gif
 
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