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Originally Posted by 47 Knucklehead View Post

Going with the larger market share is more logical.

Further, it is more logical since one has been ACTUALLY released for about a year now and people have actually reviewed it who weren't under AMD's thumb and actually were able to use the hardware without some AMD person controlling every aspect of the demo.

Lastly, what is affordable to you and what is affordable for me are most likely totally different. I don't have any qualms about dropping upwards of $2500-3000 for water cooling, case mods, custom lighting systems, etc. So the notion of spending $200 more for G-Sync that has actually been independently reviewed to work is a drop in my budget bucket. I realize others don't have that kind of cash, and for them, MAYBE FreeSync makes sense. But honestly, if you are on that shoestring of a budget and worried about $200, you might want to wait until FreeSync is REALLY available and released and reviewed.

I'm just saying.

Market Share doesn't matter in the case of FreeSync vs G-Sync More FreeSync monitors have been announced at CES than the total amount of G-Sync equipped monitors even after a year. 90% of manufactures are backing FreeSync that's a larger market share right there
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Market Share doesn't matter in the case of FreeSync vs G-Sync More FreeSync monitors have been announced at CES than the total amount of G-Sync equipped monitors even after a year. 90% of manufactures are backing FreeSync that's a larger market share right there

If you think that 90% of the market buys $600-1500 monitors, you are sadly mistaken. I'm talking about the high end market, you know, the people who actually buy discrete GPUs, which is where nVidia has 70% of the market share. Also, if you think that 90% of the makers are backing FreeSync much less 90% of the monitors being made are going to be FreeSync, you obviously either know nothing about how many different models of monitor there are out there or even how many manufacturers of monitors there are.

My 70% marketshare is a real number, other than you "90%" number, which is totally made up and pulled out of thin air.
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I don't see any reason why manufactures not add FreeSync if it is cost 0 for implementation and they can add one more extra in spec list.
Edited by mkclan - 1/11/15 at 7:09am
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I don't see any reason why manufactures not add FreeSync if it is cost 0 for implementation and they can add one more extra in spec list.

More and more will. Its a free feature to boost their sales.
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I don't see any reason why manufactures not add FreeSync if it is cost 0 for implementation and they can add one more extra in spec list.

Odds are they will.

Further, when the next generation of AMD cards actually comes out, it will gain more popularity, maybe even getting over the 10% of the market share that can ACTUALLY USE FreeSync (remember, only the 260, 290, and 290X support FreeSync ... as well as some of the newer APUs). All the 6xxx, 7xxx, 8xxx, 270, 270x, 280, 280x, etc cards do not support it. So even though AMD has a 30% market share, the vast majority of that market share won't even support it.

The only question is, since it is an open optional standard, will every monitor manufacturer do it, even on low end junk, and try to use A-Sync or FreeSync in their advertising to try to draw people in and the panels suck so bad that the effective window is from 55-60Hz and it give the user a bad experience and actually be counter productive?

I mean just look at the shady advertising that many 4K monitor makers did last year with their "60Hz" panels. They are only 15Hz at 4K, 30Hz at 1080p, and 60Hz at 800p.

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More and more will. Its a free feature to boost their sales.

Agreed.
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If you think that 90% of the market buys $600-1500 monitors, you are sadly mistaken. I'm talking about the high end market, you know, the people who actually buy discrete GPUs, which is where nVidia has 70% of the market share. Also, if you think that 90% of the makers are backing FreeSync much less 90% of the monitors being made are going to be FreeSync, you obviously either know nothing about how many different models of monitor there are out there or even how many manufacturers of monitors there are.

My 70% marketshare is a real number, other than you "90%" number, which is totally made up and pulled out of thin air.

Where is this real number from?
    
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Where is this real number from?

A variety of places, depending on how you want to look at the data, for discrete video, embedded, etc.

(PR) Big Swing in Market Share From AMD to NVIDIA: JPR

Here is Q4 2013, before nVidia made their big move, when they only had 64.9% of the "add in board" marketshare.

Add-in board market up in Q4, Nvidia gains market share


Here is the Q3 2014 numbers, before their huge GTX 900 offering hit ... 71.5% of the market for add-in-boards.

Add-in board market up in Q3, Nvidia increases market share lead


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JPR found that AIB shipments during 2014 3Q behaved according to past years with regard to seasonality, but the increase was less than the 10-year average. AIB shipments increased 7.8% from the last quarter (the 10-year average is 12.6%).

Total AIB shipments increased this quarter to 12.4 million units from last quarter.
AMD’s quarter-to-quarter total desktop AIB unit shipments decreased 9.5%.
Nvidia’s quarter-to-quarter unit shipments increased 24%.
Nvidia continues to hold a dominant market share position at 72%.
Figures for the other suppliers were flat to declining.


Once the Q4 2014 numbers are posted, I honestly could see nVidia holding about a 78% to 80% market share. The GTX 900's were THAT big of a deal.
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If you think that 90% of the market buys $600-1500 monitors, you are sadly mistaken. I'm talking about the high end market, you know, the people who actually buy discrete GPUs, which is where nVidia has 70% of the market share. Also, if you think that 90% of the makers are backing FreeSync much less 90% of the monitors being made are going to be FreeSync, you obviously either know nothing about how many different models of monitor there are out there or even how many manufacturers of monitors there are.

My 70% marketshare is a real number, other than you "90%" number, which is totally made up and pulled out of thin air.
And of that 70%, how many do you think will by $700 gsync monitors?
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And of that 70%, how many do you think will by $700 gsync monitors?

Turn the question around ... of that 30%, the VAST MAJORITY of which are older 6xxx, 7xxx, 8xxx, and non 260 & 290's, how many of those are going to by a $500-600 FreeSync monitor?

But to answer your question, since G-Sync runs on GTX 5xx, 6xx, 7xx, and 9xx cards ... a hell of a lot more people ... especially since it is more backwards compatible NOW, you won't have to change out your card AND montor, and drop $500-600 for a monitor AND another $300 to $500 for a card that it will work on that monitor ... oh, and the fact that there already is a 2:1 market advantage ... a hell of a lot more people are likely to go with G-Sync over the past year and at least into the next year or so than people who will go with FreeSync starting in two or three months from now.
Edited by 47 Knucklehead - 1/11/15 at 8:50am
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Turn the question around ... of that 30%, the VAST MAJORITY of which are older 6xxx, 7xxx, 8xxx, and non 260 & 290's, how many of those are going to by a $500-600 FreeSync monitor?

The part you keep missing is that FreeSync is just an additional feature for a monitor that can be sold as a standard monitor. With a G-Sync monitor, you must buy it for G-Sync use because it required additional hardware to work. A monitor vendor would be taking a huge risk handicapping a monitor to include custom hardware for the common market. With FreeSync, the monitor is just that, a monitor, and it also happens to support Variable Refresh Rate..

Edit: originally thought g-sync worked with displayport only monitors.
Edited by metalliax - 1/11/15 at 10:19am
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