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Turn the question around ... of that 30%, the VAST MAJORITY of which are older 6xxx, 7xxx, 8xxx, and non 260 & 290's, how many of those are going to by a $500-600 FreeSync monitor?

But to answer your question, since G-Sync runs on GTX 5xx, 6xx, 7xx, and 9xx cards ... a hell of a lot more people ... especially since it is more backwards compatible NOW, you won't have to change out your card AND montor, and drop $500-600 for a monitor AND another $300 to $500 for a card that it will work on that monitor ... oh, and the fact that there already is a 2:1 market advantage ... a hell of a lot more people are likely to go with G-Sync over the past year and at least into the next year or so than people who will go with FreeSync starting in two or three months from now.

Apart from GTX780 + user nobody is going to spend money on expesnive G-Sync before GPU upgrade. Really G-Sync for older GPU and slower ones is pointless.
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Turn the question around ... of that 30%, the VAST MAJORITY of which are older 6xxx, 7xxx, 8xxx, and non 260 & 290's, how many of those are going to by a $500-600 FreeSync monitor?

But to answer your question, since G-Sync runs on GTX 5xx, 6xx, 7xx, and 9xx cards ... a hell of a lot more people ... especially since it is more backwards compatible NOW, you won't have to change out your card AND montor, and drop $500-600 for a monitor AND another $300 to $500 for a card that it will work on that monitor ... oh, and the fact that there already is a 2:1 market advantage ... a hell of a lot more people are likely to go with G-Sync over the past year and at least into the next year or so than people who will go with FreeSync starting in two or three months from now.
Pretty sure gsync only works on Kepler and maxwell oh and freesync works on GCN1.1 and 1.2.Not really going to matter if they sell one freesync monitor or 20 million, fact is adaptive sync is baked into the standard now and unlike gsync which nvidia is having to subsidise adaptive sycn is cost AMD nothing.
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Turn the question around ... of that 30%, the VAST MAJORITY of which are older 6xxx, 7xxx, 8xxx, and non 260 & 290's, how many of those are going to by a $500-600 FreeSync monitor?

But to answer your question, since G-Sync runs on GTX 5xx, 6xx, 7xx, and 9xx cards ... a hell of a lot more people ... especially since it is more backwards compatible NOW, you won't have to change out your card AND montor, and drop $500-600 for a monitor AND another $300 to $500 for a card that it will work on that monitor ... oh, and the fact that there already is a 2:1 market advantage ... a hell of a lot more people are likely to go with G-Sync over the past year and at least into the next year or so than people who will go with FreeSync starting in two or three months from now.
Then again, +200$ difference between buying a gsync monitor & freesync monitors can easily be translated into a new AMD Radeon gpu purchase, such as the R9 285 which has superior fpga based VSR compared to shader based DSR. If we are going to compare Nvidia to AMD, we cannot forego taking gaming requirements of VRAM into context, imo. Those 5xx, 6xx cards will draw their last breaths much before they can drive a 4K Gsync monitor with comparatively equal visual quality.
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Apart from GTX780 + user nobody is going to spend money on expesnive G-Sync before GPU upgrade. Really G-Sync for older GPU and slower ones is pointless.

Gsync for older cards isn't pointless, it's actually a huge advantage and a way to extend the life of an older card (since you can get smooth game play at lower FPS). The problem, as you pointed out, is that you need an installed base of monitors to take advantage of it. The same applies to Freesync also, but hopefully lower price points will speed adoption.
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Gsync for older cards isn't pointless, it's actually a huge advantage and a way to extend the life of an older card (since you can get smooth game play at lower FPS). The problem, as you pointed out, is that you need an installed base of monitors to take advantage of it. The same applies to Freesync also, but hopefully lower price points will speed adoption.

In theory yes but in practice no. Why would you buy a $600 + G-Sync monitor for you $170 GPU?
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In theory yes but in practice no. Why would you buy a $600 + G-Sync monitor for you $170 GPU?
Because you value input lag and tear elimination over eye candy?
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Because you value input lag and tear elimination over eye candy?

You can value both if you ho AMD thumb.gif
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You can value both if you ho AMD thumb.gif
You still have the same tradeoff, and it remains to be seen which freesync monitors will be a good buy.
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You can value both if you ho AMD thumb.gif

 

Unless you happen to not have the few cards that actually support FreeSync? Which would make you have to get a new GPU & monitor. Which kinda defeats the whole purpose. Either way, I see FreeSync's adoption rate still being far better than GSync. Only reason I went with GSync is because I'm that selfish bastard that wanted it then and there and to enjoy it. Didn't care about any price premium I had to pay. Can't wait till the masses get to experience the same thing I've been experiencing for a quarter of a year. Variable refresh is actually quite awesome.

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G-sync or FreeSync need to be a cheap feature in almost all montors sold, not a keystone feature in a "gaming" monitor that jacks up the price. This technology isn't advanced or anything, it's just a matter of settling on ONE standard.

As far as playability goes, it's both screen tearing and sudden fps drops that really detract from the experience.

In some demanding games, I underdrive my monitor to 48Hz or 50Hz and just enable adaptive v-sync. It plays much better than stuttering, normal v-sync when the fps dips and screen tearing.
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