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Has the MSRP for these Compute Sticks changed or is NewEgg charging a premium?
 
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Sounds interesting! I wonder if they will suck or not.... Why did they make the Linux version have less RAM and storage?
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Lol what was the 3DMark score?
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Originally Posted by MrLinky View Post

Has the MSRP for these Compute Sticks changed or is NewEgg charging a premium?
Its $150 here: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883800002 and here http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=&sku=1138081&gclid=CMuajrHDi8UCFWgR7AodBUEACA&Q=&is=REG&A=details this was the price I was given before launch.

Now while I was looking up the compute stick I found much cheaper alternatives, but they have a big quirk I saw after I read the buyer comments: http://dealsprime.com/meegopad-t01-mini-pc-tv-stick-intel-z3735f-windows-8-1-2gb-32gb-with-hdmi-cable.html/?currency=USD&gclid=CIjGheXDi8UCFWlo7Aodm1QAdQ

They are basically selling the Compute Stick (not sure of internals, if they are identical): but without an OS, just a trial version of Windows 8.1. Then the buyers say they have to pay $119 for the OS after the 30 day trial runs out.

The Intel Compute Stick comes with a legit Windows 8.1 image and a backup image so you can restore without an external device (like most laptops now) which I thought makes it a pretty good value. Its like you are buying 8.1 and for $70 more (basic Windows 8.1 only costs like $80) you are getting a free miniPC. The reasons most devices don't run full Windows is because of the price of the OS and because it might not run on weak hardware, but this stick can run it.
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Lol what was the 3DMark score?

Yea its worse to watch lol The GPU in the SOC isn't anything special, you can stream stuff but you can't play real games
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but you can't play real games

Dosbox on the big screen!!! tongue.gif

Thanks for the review Sin. I also thought Gizmodo missed the point.
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Well, it's a good first try, but according to the AnandTech review there are a few notable downsides:


http://www.anandtech.com/show/9167/intel-compute-stick-review


1. The disk space is too small (for a Windows installation I might add);

2. The fan can get annoying depending on how close to it you are;

3. Wireless performance is lacking.


It's also rather intriguing how they didn't make 64-bit drivers for this CPU and thus it has to ship with 32-bit Windows (but then again, in this specific case, with 32 GB of internal storage I wouldn't put the 64-bit version in there either).


I'd say that the 14nm version that will surely follow will be the one to get.
 
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Well, it's a good first try, but according to the AnandTech review there are a few notable downsides:


http://www.anandtech.com/show/9167/intel-compute-stick-review


1. The disk space is too small (for a Windows installation I might add);

2. The fan can get annoying depending on how close to it you are;

3. Wireless performance is lacking.


It's also rather intriguing how they didn't make 64-bit drivers for this CPU and thus it has to ship with 32-bit Windows (but then again, in this specific case, with 32 GB of internal storage I wouldn't put the 64-bit version in there either).


I'd say that the 14nm version that will surely follow will be the one to get.

I agree.
This Bay Trail has single channel ram and 4EUs for graphics. Single channel ram makes a big difference in bay trail. My old Encore(z3740) blows away my daughter's hp stream7(z3735g) and the big difference is the ram.
The Bluetooth performance does get pushed to the side when the cpu gets a just little busy, but an usb wireless setup doesn't.
The new Atom should be more refined and have 3-4x the graphics, and hopefully will come out with a dual channel ram version.
If the hp stream 7 had a hdmi out I would say get that instead for less but they stopped making the tablets like that pretty much with the encore because they could do this too. BTW the encore doesn't have enough power to run multiscreen well, but single screen is great.
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Well, it's a good first try, but according to the AnandTech review there are a few notable downsides:


http://www.anandtech.com/show/9167/intel-compute-stick-review


1. The disk space is too small (for a Windows installation I might add);

2. The fan can get annoying depending on how close to it you are;

3. Wireless performance is lacking.


It's also rather intriguing how they didn't make 64-bit drivers for this CPU and thus it has to ship with 32-bit Windows (but then again, in this specific case, with 32 GB of internal storage I wouldn't put the 64-bit version in there either).


I'd say that the 14nm version that will surely follow will be the one to get.

I agree with points 1 and 3, but the versatility of the device needs to be taken into account, at $150 and 4.8W what do you expect? There is a USB port that can do things like take a wireless AC adapter and a microSD slot is also built into the device. I didn't think the fan was loud or annoying at all, its kind of noticeable from 3 feet away and it only turns on when a load is applied.

The 32-bit thing was a bit of a downer, Intel even state its a 64-bit CPU here, but I think its something with memory addressing which only lets it do 32

Regardless the Cherry Trail model should be better, just like 95% of devices are better than the generation before them.... lol
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Hey guys, just got my new Compute Stick this week, and have a few notes:

1. The fan is seriously grating.
2. The CPU is shockingly fast. Web browsing is perfectly fine.
3 The GPU is shockingly NOT. I tried Skull Girls (a 2d fighter) and it couldn't do it. Also tried Transistor and it wouldn't start. Runs ePSXe with some massaging (use D3D plugin, not OpenGL).
4. I think the Bluetooth/Wireless thing's been fixed in the last week or so with new drivers. I haven't had too many issues with my crappy ancient bluetooth keyboard and mouse.
5. It struggles on my network to do 1080p Steam Streaming, but 720p is fine. It will play super high quality 1080p BluRay rips straight off of my NAS no prob.
6. Contrary to reports, it DOES SUPPORT QUICKSYNC. I just tried to encode 1080p 30fps h264 in real-time in OBS and it only used like 20% CPU with Quicksync on. With x264 it couldn't do it. Odd it supports this and not a bunch of OpenGL stuff.
7. It takes an ETERNITY to do Windows update. Like, hours.

Overall, I'm disappointed in the GPU and impressed by the CPU. I was hoping the GPU would be able to handle more 2d/indie games than it does. I may try a few others later.


If anyone has questions about one, let me know.
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Hey guys, just got my new Compute Stick this week, and have a few notes:

1. The fan is seriously grating.
2. The CPU is shockingly fast. Web browsing is perfectly fine.
3 The GPU is shockingly NOT. I tried Skull Girls (a 2d fighter) and it couldn't do it. Also tried Transistor and it wouldn't start. Runs ePSXe with some massaging (use D3D plugin, not OpenGL).
4. I think the Bluetooth/Wireless thing's been fixed in the last week or so with new drivers. I haven't had too many issues with my crappy ancient bluetooth keyboard and mouse.
5. It struggles on my network to do 1080p Steam Streaming, but 720p is fine. It will play super high quality 1080p BluRay rips straight off of my NAS no prob.
6. Contrary to reports, it DOES SUPPORT QUICKSYNC. I just tried to encode 1080p 30fps h264 in real-time in OBS and it only used like 20% CPU with Quicksync on. With x264 it couldn't do it. Odd it supports this and not a bunch of OpenGL stuff.
7. It takes an ETERNITY to do Windows update. Like, hours.

Overall, I'm disappointed in the GPU and impressed by the CPU. I was hoping the GPU would be able to handle more 2d/indie games than it does. I may try a few others later.


If anyone has questions about one, let me know.

Wow. Great feedback. From the sounds of it, much better performance than I expected. Was expecting nothing from the GPU and very little from the CPU, but it seems to have very decent performance.

Looking forward to its more powerful successors.
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