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what a liar.
why did u go with an AIO?well cuz all have open loops water cooling bla bla.....

really, really???

the answer it's simple.on air that card will burn ur pc and ur house.
GTX295, GTX 590, HD5970, HD6990, HD7990 all disagree with you. Water allows the card not to throttle and hold their 1.03GHz clocks thus put out higher performance numbers. The heat is excessive but could be handled.
post #112 of 150
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what a liar.
why did u go with an AIO?well cuz all have open loops water cooling bla bla.....

really, really???

the answer it's simple.on air that card will burn ur pc and ur house.
It is good that AMD signed a cooling unit contract with Asetek. I have no doubt that there is more efficiency with a water cooler. What is more, I would be equally satisfied, if Asetek in return upgraded their radiators with a Sandia licenced RSC radiator plate. Three 13 cm impellers, 1 kg in total weight, revolving at 1000 rpm would hypothetically be able to pull 300 watts at 15 celcius delta, NOISELESSLY.
Then, all the constellations in the night sky would align.
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what a liar.
why did u go with an AIO?well cuz all have open loops water cooling bla bla.....

really, really???

the answer it's simple.on air that card will burn ur pc and ur house.

Nothing beats Fermi in that regards
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Their garbage R9 290(x) cooler supposedly wasn't even cheap. AMD can't even get a proper vapour chamber based cooler out. Fail.
On the bright side, the aftermarket solutions are pretty good about that.
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Just a few years ago the picture was very different. Fermi was a hot and not even strong monster. The 5850 and 5870 were matching the GTX470 and GTX480's performance at half the power. So saying AMD = high power and running hot is simply not always true. Also there is no correlation between running hot and high power consumption in a situation where cooling is adequate.

I'm quite sure you will get the efficiency you want as AMD's HBM integration could be a game changer along with a new arch and a new reference cooler. Whether it will outrun a 295 x2 by 20% is doubtfull considering that is a dual gpu card but it should have no problem matching or exceeding the GTX980. That being said AMD's 390x would obviously go head to head with the bigger maxwell. (I say bigger because on 28nm Maxwell is already big with ~400mm^2)
It was 10% more perf for like $50 more. Totally forgivable for a lot of people, for others not because of the heat and power usage being obnoxious.

GM204 is relatively large, but the scales seem to be shifting and we will be seeing 550-600mm2 GPUs.

390x's competition is the Titan 2 or 980 Ti. If Nvidia does a Titan 2 I imagine many a jaded Titan owner is going to look more closely at the 390x. I sure would. They can't pull that 780 Ti noise twice.
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AIO watercoolers rarely leak. (The Apple G5 was an exception)
A pump is about as likely to fail as a fan both will be covered by the card's warranty.
They do fail though and the Corsair section has a few too many complaints in that respect from what I hear.

I would prefer not to go water myself unless its a custom loop.
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GTX295, GTX 590, HD5970, HD6990, HD7990 all disagree with you. Water allows the card not to throttle and hold their 1.03GHz clocks thus put out higher performance numbers. The heat is excessive but could be handled.
He does have somewhat of a point, consider the Powercolor Devil 13, the three slot air cooled variant of the 295x2.
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You have no clue as to what your talking about. Dont derail the thread with troll post such as this" A strong monster, what?
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Their garbage R9 290(x) cooler supposedly wasn't even cheap. AMD can't even get a proper vapour chamber based cooler out. Fail.
Just a few years ago the picture was very different. Fermi was a hot and not even strong monster. The 5850 and 5870 were matching the GTX470 and GTX480's performance at half the power.

Proof. The 480 crushed the 5870, !!!crushed it! Thats when AMD went in the hole, they have been there ever since.
And its not looking to change anytime soon. wink.gif If Nvidia had a cpu division. Their stock assets would be 2x times as much as todays, hows amd doing with that? If your going to make statements as such, plz brings some facts.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/2977/nvidia-s-geforce-gtx-480-and-gtx-470-6-months-late-was-it-worth-the-wait-/11




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Those are some interesting dual GPU results. Individual isn't as interesting.

10% isn't exactly crushing, especially with the downsides of Fermi.

Also, you couldn't cherry pick any harder than that man.
 
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You have no clue as to what your talking about. Dont derail the thread with troll post such as this" A strong monster, what?
Proof. The 480 crushed the 5870, !!!crushed it! Thats when AMD went in the hole, they have been there ever since.
And its not looking to change anytime soon. wink.gif If Nvidia had a cpu division. Their stock assets would be 2x times as much as todays, hows amd doing with that? If your going to make statements as such, plz brings some facts.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/2977/nvidia-s-geforce-gtx-480-and-gtx-470-6-months-late-was-it-worth-the-wait-/11




The 480 beating the 5870 sent AMD in the hole? lol man

7990>690
7970>680
7950>670
7870>660

Longevity is also an AMD thing, Tahiti 3GB 384 bit bus and Hawaii with 4GB. The 680 is a joke at this present time and the 780TI is already maxing out buffer in the lastest games!

Hawaii is a year old and trades with GM204 biggrin.gif

If Nvidia had a CPU business they would have been obliterated by Intel just like anyone else. CPU business was a big part of AMD that where they have lost the most that's the reason for their unfortunate situation today but things are looking up. VSR> DSR and FreeSync has more momentum going for it the G-Sync does despite it being out for a year. Both camps have incredible technology lets give credit where credit is due.
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The 480 beating the 5870 sent AMD in the hole? lol man

7990>690
7970>680
7950>670
7870>660
Uh...didn't the 7970 debut at $1k till the 680 came, slapped its crap, and forced it to a reasonable price?
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Longevity is also an AMD thing, Tahiti 3GB 384 bit bus and Hawaii with 4GB. The 680 is a joke at this present time and the 780TI is already maxing out buffer in the lastest games!
Tahiti and Keplar are both still fine. The 680/770 does well in 1080p, even with its crippling 2GBs, so the VRAM concerns are unfounded.

Games cache in the VRAM. Things we already knew.
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Hawaii is a year old and trades with GM204 biggrin.gif
Flagships comparing with next generation midtiers?! Wow, its almost as if that isn't almost always the case lol.
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If Nvidia had a CPU business they would have been obliterated by Intel just like anyone else. CPU business was a big part of AMD that where they have lost the most that's the reason for their unfortunate situation today but things are looking up. VSR> DSR and FreeSync has more momentum going for it the G-Sync does despite it being out for a year. Both camps have incredible technology lets give credit where credit is due.
AMD didn't just lose because Intel was so good, but because the company made so many mistakes, like selling their fabs.

Man I'm so glad I got my FreeSync monitor in time for the holidays. It kicks G-syncs booty. You'll all see soon enough rolleyes.gif. They never lied in the CES demo last year!

I tend not to give the feature sets credit as they're not competitive and strengthen the market power of their owners (tl;dr bad for us). That said, I shamefully admit two things that have impressed me. Mantle, in proper hands, has had admirable performance improvements (like BF4) and the Shield tablet's game streaming feature.
 
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Uh...didn't the 7970 debut at $1k till the 680 came, slapped its crap, and forced it to a reasonable price?
No the msrp was no where near $1k. It was just shy of $600.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6093/amd-radeon-hd-7970-7950-7870-price-cuts-inbound-7970ge-available-next-week
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No the msrp was no where near $1k. It was just shy of $600.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6093/amd-radeon-hd-7970-7950-7870-price-cuts-inbound-7970ge-available-next-week
Cheers, what'd you google to find that? I've done a couple searches for launch prices today, none of which have turned up anything. Was it the 7990 to be $1k on release then?

I'm glad AMD chose a new naming scheme. The 7xxxs all blur together for me. The R7/9s are much easier to remember.
 
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