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post #1 of 12
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Hello,

I am on the verge of buying my next PC in 2-3 weeks, but have a decision to make. My current PC is gigantic (600t) and is way too big for college dorms. So, to keep me from having to rebuild another PC next year because of problems, I need some help picking parts. Here are my questions:

Processor: Should I go with Intel i5 4690k or i7 4790k? I am an engineering student, if that influences what processor to get. I also plan to use my PC for gaming.

Motherboard/Case: Should I go with ATX or mATX? The only reason I am iffy on mATX is beacuse of the case selection and SLI support. Most mATX cases I have found are either fairly close to being a mid tower or are a remade version of the ITX version (thing prodigy m). I only plan on doing dual SLI, if even at all.

PSU: I am going to go with a GTX 970 to start with, but plan to SLI two 970's to future proof my PC. I would prefer to spend less than $100, and at least semi modular. I have a Corsair CX750m and I love it, but I do not know if it can handle my build.

Planned component (already have):

WD 3tb Green
Corsair Vengeance 8gb
Samsung 250gb SSD

Overall, I am looking for a smaller PC that will last me the rest of my college career (another 3 1/2-4 years) and I want something that can run my CAD programs and games. I have looked at the n200, 350d, HAF xB, Phenom M, and Corsair Air 240. Budget for these components is ~$950 before tax and shipping.biggrin.gif
post #2 of 12
Here's a mATX build that's SLI capable that uses the Air 240.

A 4690k will work great for your needs. The motherboard is priced fairly and supports SLI, the ASUS 970 is quiet and overclockable, and the Seasonic M12 PSU is a steal @ $54.99. Its also a proven design and a more reliable unit than your CX750m. I'm sure you could find a buyer for the Corsair unit if you chose to switch PSUs.


PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($218.98 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-L12 37.8 CFM CPU Cooler ($66.57 @ Mwave)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97MX-Gaming 5 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($122.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 970 4GB STRIX Video Card ($342.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Corsair Air 240 MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($74.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 620W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($54.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $881.51
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-01-10 02:16 EST-0500
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The only real downside to the Seasonic M12II is its NOT quiet.
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Seagate Ironwolf Pro 10 TB LG CH12NS30 x5 Noctua NF-A14 FLX Noctua NH-D15S 
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Thanks for the build. I have read that I can easily get the performance of the i7 out of the i5, but didn't know if hyper threading was worth the extra $100. Wouldn't that GPU be starved for air if I did an sli build in the air 240? And is 620w enough power for an overclocked i5 with 2 gpus? And I'm selling my entire AMD rig to a good friend for $850, I am just keeping some of the parts to make it more affordable for him, and not such a loss for me.
post #5 of 12
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Originally Posted by Nuttfuz View Post

Thanks for the build. I have read that I can easily get the performance of the i7 out of the i5, but didn't know if hyper threading was worth the extra $100. Wouldn't that GPU be starved for air if I did an sli build in the air 240? And is 620w enough power for an overclocked i5 with 2 gpus? And I'm selling my entire AMD rig to a good friend for $850, I am just keeping some of the parts to make it more affordable for him, and not such a loss for me.

Its not a 620 watts PSU its a 576 watts PSU so no you need more wattage for 2x GTX 970 cards if you are going to overclock.
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Originally Posted by shilka View Post

The only real downside to the Seasonic M12II is its NOT quiet.
Yeah, it ramps up pretty loudly when it is under severe load. At normal operating loads, I've found it to be quite bearable.
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Thanks for the build. I have read that I can easily get the performance of the i7 out of the i5, but didn't know if hyper threading was worth the extra $100. Wouldn't that GPU be starved for air if I did an sli build in the air 240? And is 620w enough power for an overclocked i5 with 2 gpus? And I'm selling my entire AMD rig to a good friend for $850, I am just keeping some of the parts to make it more affordable for him, and not such a loss for me.
Going SLI in a mATX case is always going to present issues. Going SLI in a big, well ventilated mid tower case is hard enough:rolleyes: The M12 is more than enough power for an overclocked i5 and one overclocked GPU, as shiika said.
Unless you're going to be gaming at 1440p, I think a single 970 will be more than capable of handling all your games at 1080.
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personally i dont believe in future proofing PC, going SIngle GPU is always the best option IMO. unless you need the Horse power right there and now.
post #8 of 12
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Yeah I dont even have a monitor that is 1440p haha. I'm probably going to eventually get another monitor so that is always a factor. I probably will not run a game on both monitors, but will use one monitor for the game, and the second one for my temps and other micellaneous programs like that. I don't know if that will effect how much more power I need, but I like the option to do so. Also, on the temps for an SLI 970 mATX build, I have looked at a few build logs with this setup and noticed it wasn't too bad. And future proofing is nice, seeing how I put ~$1500 in the my PC I built in February 2014, and now it is worth so little just because it's an AMD machine with a GTX 760 /:
post #9 of 12
I would probably get a reference cooler if you're going for SLI. Not only making one of the GPUs hotter when building a system with SLI a non-reference cooler, it will also make the case a heatbox and will make the CPU temps go up significantly.

If you can get a reference 970, which actually is using 980 components by the way, then that would be awesome! And you will not have temp issues since reference coolers blow the hot air at the back of your case.

Then again, if you play on 1080p monitor, a single 970 should be good enough with very good graphics settings, if graphics is your thing.

You can also get a smaller case than the Air 240, if size is your concern. A Silverstone SG09/SG10 should be great for that. The Air 240 is 33 litres while the SG09/10 is only 23 litres. The Silverstone is abit pricier though, because of that 180mm fan included which is easily $20.

Regarding hyperthreading, if the games/programs that you are going to use are multithreaded, then its worth spending $100 more for hyperthreading. I think CAD doesnt benefit from hyperthreading, so consider that as well.
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- You can go with something like this -

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/KH3ZHx
CPU: i5-4690K - $220
CPU Cooler: CM Seidon 120V (liquid) - $50
Mobo: ASUS Z97M-PLUS (Micro ATX) - $123
GPU: MSI GTX 970 Twin Frozr V - $345
Case: Corsair Air 240 - $75
PSU: Corsair CS650M (Gold) - $75
Total: $888

OR

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/qJwz99
CPU: i5-4690K - $220
CPU Cooler: CM Seidon 120V (liquid) - $50
Mobo: ASUS Z97M-PLUS (Micro ATX) - $123
GPU: Sapphire R9 290 Tri-X - $269
Case: Corsair 350D Windowed - $100
PSU: Antec TruePower 750W (Gold) - $74
Total: $835
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