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Hi there!
I used to have laptops all my life, but since I'm more settled down now and want something a bit more powerful than an AMD TL-56 with a Radeon Xpress1100 I decided to go all in and built my own system.
The requirements are as follows:
- I'm on a budget around 500-600US$, I have to get a screen, keyboard as well (outside of this budget)
- as silent as possible
- "dust proof". I live in an old wooden house with wood heating - there is dust all the time and I would prefer not cleaning my PC every week
- I'm a gentoo user running virtualbox quite a bit
- I want to play an occasional game (in native windows), like Diablo3, civilization and similar (I do like to try new things as well, but I'm not a ultra settings high fps person)
- other than that, just the usual - web browsing, some non-professional image editing, home video conversion, watching movies
- overclocking is no priority right now - but I do want to keep the option

My idea is as follows:
CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3P ATX AM3+ Motherboard
Memory: G.Skill Trident X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2400 Memory
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB WINDFORCE Video Card
Case: Antec Three Hundred ATX Mid Tower Case
Power Supply: be quiet! 580W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply
Optical Drive: LG GH24NSB0 DVD/CD

Now there are questions:
I heard that AMD bins the FX series according to their quality, so it seems as the 8320 is worst quality? I could spent a couple $ more and get an 8320E or 8370E? The x4 860k seems like an option - I just thought gentoo and virtualbox might like the additional cores...
Memory: if I do have money left - I will go for 2x8GB
Video Card: I took the Ti because the store I intend to buy from has an offer on it for the same price as the GTX750. But which cooler/cooling version is the right one?
Case: I think it is a nice Case, put PCpartspicker gives me this warning:
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Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3P ATX AM3+ Motherboard has an onboard USB 3.0 header, but the Antec Three Hundred ATX Mid Tower Case does not have front panel USB 3.0 ports.
Does this mean I don't use all features or do I need another case to get the mobo in?
Cooling: That's just a big ? for me.
Power supply: I more ore less picked a random one that sounded good to me.
I don't need hard disks, I have a 128GB SSD and three 500GB 2,5" hard disks, that should be enough for a start.

I appreciate all help, hints and suggestions!
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everything seems ok to me not sure about that psu but i would probably spend the extra and get the 8320E if it isnt too much more and that board has front usb3 and usb2 heads so it will work with that case
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If the case does not have front panel usb 3.0, you will not be able to use the 3.0 on the front panel. That's not a too big problem, I doubt you will really "need it" anytime soon, but if you really insist on using 3.0 on the front of the case, then you have to get another one.
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If the case does not have front panel usb 3.0, you will not be able to use the 3.0 on the front panel. That's not a too big problem, I doubt you will really "need it" anytime soon, but if you really insist on using 3.0 on the front of the case, then you have to get another one.
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ok, that is no problem I have a network printer anyway. And an USB hub
So how about cooling. How does the stock fan perform? Or which replacement is affordable and still not a noise problem. Or is there easy and affordable watercooling?
Edited by tomte - 1/10/15 at 2:27am
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ok, that is no problem I have a network printer anyway.

So how about cooling. How does the stock fan perform? Or which replacement is affordable and still not a noise problem. Or is there easy and affordable watercooling?

Stock fans are generally not the greatest, from my experience. There are definitely exceptions to this, but still.

In regards to fans, I'd get a 4-pack of Cougar Turbine 120mm fans, $30 on NewEgg. 4 pretty good airflow fans that spin at 1200RPM and at full blast are still pretty damn quiet, plus you can turn them down via voltage in the mobo's software or BIOS. Or even a cheap fan controller too. Crank those down a bit and you'll have a practically silent case.

Watercooling is more expensive, and not necessary for your needs. I'd get a CM EVO or something for your CPU, and replace the fan with one of the Cougar's or an Arctic F12. That way you can push a modest OC on your CPU to get some more performance out of it, and it'll be quieter and run cooler than stock.

Like I said, replacing fans with some decent cheap silent alternatives like the Cougar's will help a lot in noise and better airflow than stock. Case is alright, but I've never been a fan of it. Partial personal preference, but there are some nicer budget cases in my opinion. For instance, personally I'd take a Corsair 200R or something instead of the Antec 300.

Other than that, for that budget it's a pretty solid build. For your PSU especially since you're running a 750 Ti (use very little power), I'd save some money and get a decent 80+ Bronze. The price premium for a good quality ~500w 80+ Gold vs. Bronze isn't worth it, at least for your needs.

Lastly, do you need RAM for something in particular? 2400 speed is kind of excessive and not worth the price premium for your needs. All of this is my opinion, so keep that in mind. Overall though pretty good build for your budget. Good choice on using pcpartpicker, that site is a great way to plan out a build that is compatible and best prices.
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Stock fans are generally not the greatest, from my experience. There are definitely exceptions to this, but still.

In regards to fans, I'd get a 4-pack of Cougar Turbine 120mm fans, $30 on NewEgg. 4 pretty good airflow fans that spin at 1200RPM and at full blast are still pretty damn quiet, plus you can turn them down via voltage in the mobo's software or BIOS. Or even a cheap fan controller too. Crank those down a bit and you'll have a practically silent case.

Watercooling is more expensive, and not necessary for your needs. I'd get a CM EVO or something for your CPU, and replace the fan with one of the Cougar's or an Arctic F12. That way you can push a modest OC on your CPU to get some more performance out of it, and it'll be quieter and run cooler than stock.

Like I said, replacing fans with some decent cheap silent alternatives like the Cougar's will help a lot in noise and better airflow than stock. Case is alright, but I've never been a fan of it. Partial personal preference, but there are some nicer budget cases in my opinion. For instance, personally I'd take a Corsair 200R or something instead of the Antec 300.

Other than that, for that budget it's a pretty solid build. For your PSU especially since you're running a 750 Ti (use very little power), I'd save some money and get a decent 80+ Bronze. The price premium for a good quality ~500w 80+ Gold vs. Bronze isn't worth it, at least for your needs.

Lastly, do you need RAM for something in particular? 2400 speed is kind of excessive and not worth the price premium for your needs. All of this is my opinion, so keep that in mind. Overall though pretty good build for your budget. Good choice on using pcpartpicker, that site is a great way to plan out a build that is compatible and best prices.
Thank you for your answer.
You are right, the RAM speed came from another background. Namely thinking of the A10-7800 and not using dedicated graphics. I believe there the RAM speed can make a significant difference. So I will take a look at 1600 or 1866 and their prices.
I looked at the 200R Case as well - what makes you not a fan of the Antec 300?
pcpartpicker is alright, but I live in Sweden and will buy from Germany. And I can find way better prices searching myself. Too bad the good US shops don't deliver to Europe. But US prices are about the same as Germany without tax wink.gif
So here the updated list:
http://pcpartpicker.com/user/tomte/saved/mJhG3C
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the antec 300 has loud stock fans and is an older design compared to 200R
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Hello, firstly I had to say that most of time fastest RAM give small performance boost, you may not feel it.
And you have to know that AM3 doesn't mach well with hight speed RAM so keep your money and get 1600 or even 1866MHz RAM not more. wink.gif

GTX 750ti maybe cause of the linux environement.
But pretty crapy perf per price I think.

Also I don't think that ThreeHundred is the best case (little old) even more if your first need is dustfilter.
You may prefere the VSP 5000.
Corsair 200R, too many holes without filter.

NB: You're actually in silence category is it a real need ? Cause stock fan in load is... in load !! rolleyes.gif
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Hello, firstly I had to say that most of time fastest RAM give small performance boost, you may not feel it.
And you have to know that AM3 doesn't mach well with hight speed RAM so keep your money and get 1600 or even 1866MHz RAM not more.

say what? am3+ runs fine with high speed ram iv had no issues running 2400 and 3000 with my 8350 build how ever for the average user there is really no reason to have faster then 1866 but am3+ cpus can handle it but i guess for the op's first build it would be best to get something that is plug an play like 1866 or 1600 smile.gif
Edited by ozlay - 1/10/15 at 1:21pm
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In my own defence I have to say that I never try with a 8350 or even good FX series. ( thanks to replace me on the righ way biggrin.gif And what's your kit please ?)
But on 1100T yeah it sucks, or even with elpida stick you could have better perform but still get a slowest prestation than what the kit can do.
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