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Following up on November's official reveal, AMD shared some new details about its upcoming Carrizo and Carrizo-L APUs at the Consumer Electronics Show this week. Among the new info: AMD has no plans to offer Carrizo as a socketed chip for desktop PCs.
Source - The Tech Report

Disappointing if this turns out to be true. Nothing official from AMD yet as far as I know outside of this which is unconfirmed. However, we have not heard a single thing about a Desktop variant of Carrizo yet.
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I think this is a win on AMD's dedication to mobile sector. I can remember the times when they were absent in laptop space eventhough harnessing a superior video feature. Qualcomm's arrival was a blessing, though they could utilize the initiative themselves, too.
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I was looking for a new laptop a few months ago and when I went to Fry's, 90% or more were Intel based. AMD needs to compete more in the mobile market, but also needs to innovate in the desktop market. Intel needs more competition.
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at my local business depot it's closer to 60/40. mostly intel celeron and pentium (2830/2930/3520) then i3 and i5. there's a significant presence for low end amd and older richland laptops; e1-2500, a few a4-5000, the ancient 5745m and a couple a8 6410 toshibas.
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The US market is almost completely bribed by Intel. Unless you guys believe that the quality mid segment notebooks that are available here in Europe are not available in the US for other reasons.
Too bad so sad.

Here in NL the HP Pavilion with 1080P screen and A8 6410 goes for as low as 400 euro. The only thing cheaper with 1080P screen able to run windows is some baytrail degenerate laptop. In the US it is hard to come by 1080P AMD laptops and when you see them their prices are above all the offerings by Intel.

As for the article at hand AMD made big claims about efficiency. If they are true Carrizo should do well in mobile (if playing field was level that is)
Still I see no need to not release desktop chips even if they are just packages solderd onto a board and shoved in a desktop case. (too bad for the enthusiast but from a business perspective an ok idea)
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First no Steamroller for AM3+, and now no Excavator for desktops? What.
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How does AMD plan to make money if they don't offer any products? They keep making a smaller footprint for themselves to do business in.
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Originally Posted by ShiftstealthΒ View Post

How does AMD plan to make money if they don't offer any products? They keep making a smaller footprint for themselves to do business in.

Interesting if true, but I'd be surprised if they didn't make at least some APU desktop models, as they did with Kaveri. I will not be surprised if they forgo a discrete desktop chip again, as they really seem to be committed to the APU/HSA/Mobile concept, so cannot blame them from a business standpoint. More importantly, the "good enough" mindset has essentially completely saturated the consumer desktop marketplace, while at the same time, the marketplace is contracting. That's where the money is, and while prosumer/enthusiast segments like OCN will bemoan a lack of product and tech advancement, the fact is such sectors are a small piece of the pie nowadays. When software catches up to current hardware performance, then we will see real advancements.
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Ugh, was hoping to drop a carrizo chip into my XBR this summer or fall. Guess the 860k will have to do for awhile.
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Originally Posted by maarten12100Β View Post

The US market is almost completely bribed by Intel. Unless you guys believe that the quality mid segment notebooks that are available here in Europe are not available in the US for other reasons.
Too bad so sad.

Here in NL the HP Pavilion with 1080P screen and A8 6410 goes for as low as 400 euro. The only thing cheaper with 1080P screen able to run windows is some baytrail degenerate laptop. In the US it is hard to come by 1080P AMD laptops and when you see them their prices are above all the offerings by Intel.

As for the article at hand AMD made big claims about efficiency. If they are true Carrizo should do well in mobile (if playing field was level that is)
Still I see no need to not release desktop chips even if they are just packages solderd onto a board and shoved in a desktop case. (too bad for the enthusiast but from a business perspective an ok idea)
They probably don't scale well so mobile only.
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