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I am working with Solidworks/CAM.

But the main reason is, that i dont have any sata 6g ports free. Nor any 2.5" drive place.

Are you experience load time bottlenecks today?

You have only one other SSD? HDDs don't need SATA 6Gbps.

You have a place for 2.5" drive..... it's called double sided tape! (or drill + screws!)

I generally recommend people not getting PCIe SSDs unless they truly need one. There's the issue with compatibility, fast changing market, and limited resale market. In addition, SATA ports are more numerous than PCIe slots.


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Originally Posted by DeviousAddict View Post

But still get around 11seconds boot time in win8.1. it boots up quicker than my monitor turns on so it's pretty dificult to time the DEL key to get into bios lol
The DEL key into the BIOS is a function of your system start-up time.....

How fast your SSDs have no impact on this time as long as they response to the BIOS check.
Edited by DuckieHo - 1/12/15 at 9:32am
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post #12 of 24
It's just the timing of pressing it. I'm not a fan of pumping the key from startup is all.
Obviously because of how long monitor takes to boot up I can't see when to press the key. By the time my screens on its on the desktop.
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It's just the timing of pressing it. I'm not a fan of pumping the key from startup is all.
Obviously because of how long monitor takes to boot up I can't see when to press the key. By the time my screens on its on the desktop.

yeah i understood you man, that's funny as.
Good to hear about the RevoDrive performing like that on x79, i got the same chipset, and looking at the g.skill phoenix blade purely out of interest in new technology. Gives me hope that it will perform close to rated specs.
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Are you experience load time bottlenecks today?

You have only one other SSD? HDDs don't need SATA 6Gbps.

You have a place for 2.5" drive..... it's called double sided tape! (or drill + screws!)

I generally recommend people not getting PCIe SSDs unless they truly need one. There's the issue with compatibility, fast changing market, and limited resale market. In addition, SATA ports are more numerous than PCIe slots.
The DEL key into the BIOS is a function of your system start-up time.....

How fast your SSDs have no impact on this time as long as they response to the BIOS check.

I am not buying another sata ssd smile.gif Lets get over this point.
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@anti-clockwize
Best Pc purchase I've made imo. I get frustrated with how slow other systems are now. Im spoiled by the speed of pcie3 ssd's, will always use them for OS now. It was 499 when i bought it as it came out. Could probably get the 120gb version much cheaper now though
post #16 of 24
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Originally Posted by DuckieHo View Post

Are you experience load time bottlenecks today?

You have only one other SSD? HDDs don't need SATA 6Gbps.

You have a place for 2.5" drive..... it's called double sided tape! (or drill + screws!)

I generally recommend people not getting PCIe SSDs unless they truly need one. There's the issue with compatibility, fast changing market, and limited resale market. In addition, SATA ports are more numerous than PCIe slots.
The DEL key into the BIOS is a function of your system start-up time.....

How fast your SSDs have no impact on this time as long as they response to the BIOS check.

I am not buying another sata ssd smile.gif Lets get over this point.

Well since that's settled, IMHO you should avoid Sandforce RAID drives like the plague. That kind of setup just isn't reliable, and real world performance will be slower than native PCIe drives.

You should either get a Samsung XP941 + adapter now, or wait a bit for the next round of native PCIe drives.
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post #17 of 24
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@anti-clockwize
Best Pc purchase I've made imo. I get frustrated with how slow other systems are now. Im spoiled by the speed of pcie3 ssd's, will always use them for OS now. It was 499 when i bought it as it came out. Could probably get the 120gb version much cheaper now though

Yeah nice, could probably get away with a 120gb, coz i have a 840pro 512gb for game installs (currently my os drive, but will become secondary if i get a pcie ssd) and i only have a few programs that i use (Mainly CAD and Image editing softwares for work and DAW's-- ableton -- for my fun tongue.gif)

I was looking at the revodrives a few months back, how long have you had yours for? They are rated at 1800MB/s reads, have you seen yours perform close to that (even during benchmarks when it was new), or has it always performed at 1000MB/s seq. reads.? Have you noticed any degradation in its performance over time?

edit: ooh the 1800mb/s read speeds are only on the 480GB and larger models, i guess coz of raid. Which @brucethemoose is saying is unreliable? i will look around to see what sort of problems people have had with 480gb revodrives
Edited by anti-clockwize - 1/12/15 at 11:16am
post #18 of 24
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Well since that's settled, IMHO you should avoid Sandforce RAID drives like the plague. That kind of setup just isn't reliable, and real world performance will be slower than native PCIe drives.

You should either get a Samsung XP941 + adapter now, or wait a bit for the next round of native PCIe drives.

ive heard samsung xp941 wont boot on x79.
post #19 of 24
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Yeah nice, could probably get away with a 120gb, coz i have a 840pro 512gb for game installs (currently my os drive, but will become secondary if i get a pcie ssd) and i only have a few programs that i use (Mainly CAD and Image editing softwares for work and DAW's-- ableton -- for my fun tongue.gif)

I was looking at the revodrives a few months back, how long have you had yours for? They are rated at 1800MB/s reads, have you seen yours perform close to that (even during benchmarks when it was new), or has it always performed at 1000MB/s seq. reads.? Have you noticed any degradation in its performance over time?

edit: ooh the 1800mb/s read speeds are only on the 480GB and larger models, i guess coz of raid. Which @brucethemoose is saying is unreliable? i will look around to see what sort of problems people have had with 480gb revodrives

I've had the Revo3 since it came out, literally no more than a week after release (9 months away, i had money to blow at the time lol)
I haven't noticed any slowing down of speed recently though, but i haven't benched it in quite a while.
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I've had the Revo3 since it came out, literally no more than a week after release (9 months away, i had money to blow at the time lol)
I haven't noticed any slowing down of speed recently though, but i haven't benched it in quite a while.

I've just been reading about issues with the SandForce 2281 controllers having catastrophic failures.
Posts around the internet say it's not a matter of if a drive using these controllers will fail, but when. Apparently there are major conflicts between the controllers and the sata 6gb/s interface, where drives will not recover from sleep mode, lock up in "panic mode" and become a completely useless chunk of hardware. Not only this, but when they lock up, all data is encrypted and not recoverable in any way (apparently this was designed by the Engineers of SandForce 2281 controller, as they knew it was no good, and designed them so when they failed, they would be completely unreadable, so people could not see the flaws with the system...)

I'm still looking into whether these issues extend to PCIe SSD's but from what i can see, seems like an insanely dodgy controller either way!
For now i'm turned off all drives that make use of this controller, until i can find some evidence that the problem does not extend to PCIe SSD's.

Will post back here if i find some useful info.
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