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Of course knowing this country (U.S.) the price for a scan will be 10k so it's limited to the rich and no insurance policy will cover it. I'm sure that's the catch. It probably costs 20 dollars to do it and the setup for the machine is probably less than some of our folding builds.

I never understood the U.S mentality on this..How come don't they make it like most EU countries do (or at least ours does) that they already deduct a small amount each month from your salary (our employer pays it for us but of course the employer has already taken that into account when offering your salary in the first place) and you are covered for almost everything. (Just some minor and a little of major things aren't covered for us)

But this machine is great!

Income Tax (the only real tax that goes to the Federal gov, Sales tax and the like is local) is already 25%+ for most people. You try explaining how they need to pay 10-15%+ more than they already do, for any reason. A lot of us are also under the mentality that we should not have to pay for other people's problems unless we chose to do so... We may like to share and be nice, but we don't want to be forced into it if you catch my drift. A lot of us also do not trust the Gov to get anything done in a reasonable amount of time ever and when they do they screw it up. You can see how all this leads to Gov handling our healthcare would make a lot of us weary...

A system like yours is fine. If it can be paid for. However our Hospitals are private companies and contrary to popular belief they must help you even if you can not pay. Especially in the south where we have a large illegal immigrant problem, Hospitals are fighting to stay afloat. They are forced to charge those who can pay more to pay for those who can not. Combine this with drug company prices being more or less unregulated (as far as I am aware) and companies like this who charge this much because they can and you get sky high prices for everyone that can foot the bill.

Insurance companies meanwhile have to compare the odds of you needing the very expensive procedures vs how much you pay per month and how large your deductible is. They are literally professional gamblers. I don't know why some hospitals won't take some insurance, but if something is not covered under your plan it is because they deem it too likely and expensive for the rate you are currently paying. They think that it will make them lose a lot of money. Just that simple.

TL;DR: Due to a large number of reasons it would be very difficult to overhaul everything with public approval.
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Unfortunately this is the sad truth. GE will charge millions to buy this machine and hospitals will have to overcharge patients or their insurance company to repay. Same thing with the DaVinci surgical robot machines. As a 3rd year medical student I've seen the hardship put on patients when they realize how much a scan can cost. There is also a lot of GE advertising in there "Local doctors said they were able to diagnose even the most challenging cardiac patients with erratic or high heartbeats" uhh.. tachycardia can be diagnosed for free by taking a pulse.

but you don't like socialism in the US and confuse it with communism. Its pure capitalism.

Live by the sword.
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but you don't like socialism in the US and confuse it with communism. Its pure capitalism.

Live by the sword.

Not everyone. I know plenty of people, including my self, who would love if we had a single payer system in this country.
    
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I never understood the U.S mentality on this..How come don't they make it like most EU countries do (or at least ours does) that they already deduct a small amount each month from your salary (our employer pays it for us but of course the employer has already taken that into account when offering your salary in the first place) and you are covered for almost everything. (Just some minor and a little of major things aren't covered for us)

But this machine is great!


Huge healthcare reform like single payer requires a supermajority to pass through our legislature. In our national legislature, there are no party coalitions (none worth mentioning, that is) since there are only two major ones that win elections consistently. Thus, it would require one party to possess 66% of the seats in both houses, which is pretty much impossible with how divided Americans are.

Edit: Other parts were over-political IMO and weren't necessary.
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