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I feel like they should drop the first stage from a plane and have it land on the ship over and over till they get it dialed in just right. Would save time and money instead of launch the whole rocket and waiting for a real mission to test the thing.
Cool none the less though.

The real mission is a perfect time to play with the rocket itself. Normally they just get ditched into the Ocean, so why not use that same time to try and land it?

While technically a failure, there was a ton of success to this as well.
    
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Hey, we didn't land on the moon first time round. Or second. Or third...

This is a great step forward, and hopefully they are able to piece together enough of what went wrong, and how it went wrong, so that the next one works better perfectly.


Note: Yes, I know Apollo 11 was the first actual attempt to land on the moon, the previous ones were 'test' flights.


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I feel like they should drop the first stage from a plane and have it land on the ship over and over till they get it dialed in just right. Would save time and money instead of launch the whole rocket and waiting for a real mission to test the thing.

It would be hard to get a plane capable of achieving the speed and altitude required to simulate the drop... Which would be costly and time consuming compared to appending it to an actual resupply mission that was going up there anyway.
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if i had $50 billion like bill gates id fund nasa myself
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if i had $50 billion like bill gates id fund nasa myself

I'm not the only one that has thought about this?

I have actually said "If I were Bill Gates, I would just fund NASA because I am a nerd." I would also make it policy that everyone greets everyone with the Spaceballs salute.


I am being dead serious.
    
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Edison never failed with his unsuccessful light bulbs, he just made other objects that didnt have the intended result he wanted. smile.gif
    
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Coming so close to actually achieving a night landing, in fog, from a high mach rocket launch isn't a failure in my book. A subsequent tweet from Elon Musk said the stabilizing fins just ran out of hydraulic fluid in the last critical landing period. They've already doubled the fluid in the rocket they have in assembly for the next launch.

Without trying you don't find out these things in sims necessarily.

In my book, this secondary mission was a massive step forward, and a step forward is anything but a failure.
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I'm not the only one that has thought about this?

I have actually said "If I were Bill Gates, I would just fund NASA because I am a nerd." I would also make it policy that everyone greets everyone with the Spaceballs salute.


I am being dead serious.


What i don't understand is why the man is sitting on his money until he is dead to donate it. Seriously donate it, and do some good now so you are here to see it.
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if i had $50 billion like bill gates id fund nasa myself

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I'm not the only one that has thought about this?

I have actually said "If I were Bill Gates, I would just fund NASA because I am a nerd." I would also make it policy that everyone greets everyone with the Spaceballs salute.


I am being dead serious.

Even at NASA current tiny budget, he could still only fund them for ~4 years before being broke and that's assuming most of his assets are liquid.

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What i don't understand is why the man is sitting on his money until he is dead to donate it. Seriously donate it, and do some good now so you are here to see it.

He actually spends a significant portion of his time trying to give his money away. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_%26_Melinda_Gates_Foundation
Really though most of his net worth is probably tied up in non liquid assets and Microsoft stock of which he still owns ~4.5% of.

In addition to all that he's also convinced a ton of Billionaires like Warren Buffet and Mark Zuckerberg to give away 50% of their net worth before they die.
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post #19 of 31
This is awesome that they are trying that. If they can succeed next time then this will save lots of money for perhaps building a space city. thumb.gif
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I agree, failure probably isn't the right word to describe to results. Close to perfect? Mission is almost successful... The mission was to launch a rocket and save the rocket... for which they saved the rocket, so success in my book.
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