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hi brothers,
First of all, i Love this Overclock.net Community and members,
i always like to Discuss with People,

ok, so now im using
Intel i5 2310 3.2ghz(turbo),
Mobo: Asus P8H61-M Lx3 R2.0
Ram: 8gb corsair vengeance,
GPU: Asus Strix Gtx 970
PSU: corsair VS650 650w 50amp
,

some months ago i was using gtx 760, i upgraded to gtx 970 its worthy and big noticeable upgrade,
then i thought its now turn to change i5 2310, but i cant buy Highest end CPU,
i can afford
-i5 4440 with B85 Motherboard

-fx 8320-8350 with Good motherboard

-or Stay on i5 2310, Buy New motherboard for it ( Gigabyte GA-B75M-D3H Motherboard ),

is upgrading to i5 4440 or fx 83xx processor worth?
i played assassin creed unity, and im enoying it, getting 50-60 fps average on Ultra, People could get more but its piss port,
now games are coming with high CPU Usage, do you think fx 8xxx will do its job well?
so these upgradation Worth or my current one is enough?
Please suggest me smile.gif
Edited by Mandeep Singh - 1/12/15 at 12:18am
post #2 of 28
As far as I know the assassin's creed games work better on intel processors (could be wrong here).
I must say as a AMD user that i only would buy FX processors if you are planning to buy a high end cooling for your CPU.

Intel processors have more single thread performance, while AMD processors have more multi thread performance.
In the market of games you should carefully look for the games you really want to play and do some research on the compatibility
if it will work well with your i5 or FX; because I can say some engines don't run that well on AMD as they do at Intel processors.

If you want to use an AMD processor be sure that your motherboard VRM's won't bottleneck because of the phase power design.
(This is because the processor needs much more power).

Personally I think the AMD processor will do well when you cool it properly. Also I would recommend 8350 over 8320.

I just noted that you are using a gtx 970 now, also note that there are CPU and GPU demanding games, keep in mind that most games are coded to run max 4 threads and will probably work better with the intel cpu, but I'm not sure about this.


I wish you the best with finding your choice thumb.gif
 
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Or..

Buy used i5-2500K and a P67 or Z68 motherboard. Also grab a 212+ EVO

Then, overclock.

Profit.

Best option, and probably the cheapest if you don't mind used.
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post #4 of 28
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Originally Posted by ProjectHardcore View Post

As far as I know the assassin's creed games work better on intel processors (could be wrong here).
I must say as a AMD user that i only would buy FX processors if you are planning to buy a high end cooling for your CPU.

Intel processors have more single thread performance, while AMD processors have more multi thread performance.
In the market of games you should carefully look for the games you really want to play and do some research on the compatibility
if it will work well with your i5 or FX; because I can say some engines don't run that well on AMD as they do at Intel processors.

If you want to use an AMD processor be sure that your motherboard VRM's won't bottleneck because of the phase power design.
(This is because the processor needs much more power).

Personally I think the AMD processor will do well when you cool it properly. Also I would recommend 8350 over 8320.

I just noted that you are using a gtx 970 now, also note that there are CPU and GPU demanding games, keep in mind that most games are coded to run max 4 threads and will probably work better with the intel cpu, but I'm not sure about this.


I wish you the best with finding your choice thumb.gif

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Originally Posted by iinversion View Post

Or..

Buy used i5-2500K and a P67 or Z68 motherboard. Also grab a 212+ EVO

Then, overclock.

Profit.

Best option, and probably the cheapest if you don't mind used.

thanks to you guys for help smile.gif
its very difficult ot get used i5 2500k, i searched in my state, lot, but there is none of who is selling, but out of my state are selling, there are high change of getting scam, especially in country like india..
my budget (include Selling current System) : i5 4440 costs about 215$ in india and B85 Mobo about 90$ = 305$
and fx 8320 about 162$ and fx 8350 200$ without motherboard.
i hope i get atleast 100$ on my current system.

but one thing is main thing, which is coming in my mind at first,
"are these upgrade worth?" because i have i5 2310, which was also known for gaming "sandibridge" before it i was using phenom ii 1055 oced to 3.6 with stable temp, but i5 2310 gave me more 10 fps then it without overlock vs oced amd cpu,
fx is still new, im not expert guy that is why i want to ask people with sure suggestions,
you guys are experts,
so what should i do smile.gif
post #5 of 28
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mandeep Singh View Post


thanks to you guys for help smile.gif
its very difficult ot get used i5 2500k, i searched in my state, lot, but there is none of who is selling, but out of my state are selling, there are high change of getting scam, especially in country like india..
my budget (include Selling current System) : i5 4440 costs about 215$ in india and B85 Mobo about 90$ = 305$
and fx 8320 about 162$ and fx 8350 200$ without motherboard.
i hope i get atleast 100$ on my current system.

but one thing is main thing, which is coming in my mind at first,
"are these upgrade worth?" because i have i5 2310, which was also known for gaming "sandibridge" before it i was using phenom ii 1055 oced to 3.6 with stable temp, but i5 2310 gave me more 10 fps then it without overlock vs oced amd cpu,
fx is still new, im not expert guy that is why i want to ask people with sure suggestions,
you guys are experts,
so what should i do smile.gif


We are just guys like you smile.gif
I would like to ask you - why would you like to consider an upgrade if you are currently running games very well? As you are writing you have a budget I would save it and buy a better cpu/motherboard when you really need it! thumb.gif

Another point is, your current cpu won't max out your gpu usage, but you still can play many games because of the gpu priority. You will see an impact when playing games like Crysis 3 or stuff like that, because those are heavy cpu related too. tongue.gif

Conclusion: I should keep your money and spend it on a better cpu / motherboard when you really need the upgrade.
 
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post #6 of 28
Unless you overclock the 8350 to 4.5GHz or so I don't see any point in upgrading because the system you now will still have more single threaded performance stock vs stock compared to your current system.

You'd need to add a cooler to that budget as well if you went the 8350 route. i5-4400 wouldn't need an aftermarket cooler.

So depends what you want? Do you need better multi-threaded performance or better single threaded? i5-4400 is likely to do better in the majority of games, while the 8350 only pulling ahead in certain titles when overclocked/more than 4 cores utilized to a point where it impacts FPS.
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post #7 of 28
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Originally Posted by iinversion View Post

Unless you overclock the 8350 to 4.5GHz or so I don't see any point in upgrading because the system you now will still have more single threaded performance stock vs stock compared to your current system.

You'd need to add a cooler to that budget as well if you went the 8350 route. i5-4400 wouldn't need an aftermarket cooler.

So depends what you want? Do you need better multi-threaded performance or better single threaded? i5-4400 is likely to do better in the majority of games, while the 8350 only pulling ahead in certain titles when overclocked/more than 4 cores utilized to a point where it impacts FPS.

i agree, how much fps i will gain from i5 2310 to i5 4440 ? smile.gif
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Are you unsatisfied with your performance?

I would either stay where you are and save up a bit for an unlocked Haswell i5 or buy used from a reputable seller here on OCN. But that's only if your performance is lacking. If you play heavy CPU intensive titles online, I suspect an upgrade to an unlocked i5 Haswell would give you a solid bump in minimum FPS.
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Originally Posted by iRUSH View Post

Are you unsatisfied with your performance?

I would either stay where you are and save up a bit for an unlocked Haswell i5 or buy used from a reputable seller here on OCN. But that's only if your performance is lacking. If you play heavy CPU intensive titles online, I suspect an upgrade to an unlocked i5 Haswell would give you a solid bump in minimum FPS.

thanks for reply smile.gif
im satisfied, its been two year with this CPU, im just user, i never tested any other hardware like geeks do, like people do in "V/s" videos,
i just want some thing more in my budget tongue.gif which can be not possible..
like 2 years ago, i used AMD phenom ii x6 1055 OCED to 3.6, with Cooler master Evo hyper 212, was stable, that time, i didnt knew that "how much performance i will gain if i upgrade" i bought i5 2310
i saw 10-20 fps gain..
is there any popular software where people upload their Gaming benchmarks paired with their CPU amd gpu.
im thinking to try Heaven benchmark once and want to differentiate with other processors,
many people suggesting me to stay on current one,
i also played some bad port games like Watch dogs and assassin creed.
i have a example of watch dogs on m pc on youtube, just yesterday.

here it is [(Note. im just giving performance example of gaming on my system, im not trying to get more views)

the game running in this video is with stock update1(not updated since purchased)
i know game is piss ported but is that running fine as other high end cpu doing?
and in assassin creed im getting 45fps minimum max 60 70,
i havent uploaded its video,but i will later, may be tomorrow,

thanks smile.gif
Edited by Mandeep Singh - 1/12/15 at 5:35am
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Originally Posted by Mandeep Singh View Post

i agree, how much fps i will gain from i5 2310 to i5 4440 ? smile.gif

Haswell is anywhere between 10-20% faster than SB depending on the task. The i5-4440 has a slight clock advantage(100MHz) in addition to that IPC boost. It will be better, but it won't be significant. If you're getting 50 FPS in something now, expect maybe 60 with the new CPU if it is CPU bound.

The best route is an unlocked i5, even an older i5-2500K because you can overclock these chips significantly with ease. 8350 can OC too of course, but seriously lacks the per-core performance and may cause you to lose FPS depending what you play, even when OC'd.
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