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Because I would imagine most people don't care about that. I would much rather have uncompressed assets than worry about my hard drive space, or the fact that I have to leave my computer on overnight while it downloads.

Same. I'm stuck with some pretty crappy internet up here in northern Maine (Steam never breaks 2Mb/s down), but I have 1.25TB of storage. I'll just preload it the night before, no biggie. If I had a datacap, I'd probably feel differently because that's some Grade A nonsense, but I don't. Like everyone else, I'm guessing the huge installation is due to uncompressed audio, like Titanfall's. They're in the business of making great games that run well. Slow internet and data caps are an entirely separate service problem.
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I have 75Mbps, and i still don't like downloading games that are 50GB. Seriously these developers need to get off their arse and stop including all of the languages uncompressed.

It isn't about the internet thing. If i paid $120 for a 240GB ssd i'm paying another $25 dollars to store the game! Then if i want the space back, i have to wait another few hours to play it!
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i'm not blaming them for my internet at all, in fact i have fairly decent internet 10/50. I'm just saying for a game that has limited resources 50gb is extreme. Unless i am wrong and they have an exorbitant amount of content they have not shown, then 50gb is not ok. Especially since hard drives haven't increased in size within the past 2 years, yet game size has increased exponentially

Hard drive sizes have EXPLODED in the past 2 years, man. You can buy 6TB and 8TB drives now, and besides, even a 2TB drive will hold 30 games like Evolve while still having enough free space to defrag. Back in the day, hard drives were MASSIVELY more limiting than they are now. I distinctly remember having to juggle which games I wanted installed on my 100MB hard drive back in the 90s.
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99% of the people in this world, or smaller eco-system of gaming, couldn't tell you what uncompressed assets were or even tell the difference between the use of them or not. A fine example is audio; no reason to include those, as the VAST and I mean VAST majority of gamers don't have hardware capable of really even listening to that level of audio quality.

Sure, give it as a download option for those that have the hardware and skillset to appreciate that sort of thing. Don't force it on everyone though, it just isn't needed.
Gotta be able to legally put those buzz words on your advertisements to generate that money! Never mind the fact the technical side of the game doesn't truly support it, as long as they can sell it that way!

In my opinion, having uncompressed assets is ALWAYS a good thing. Hard drive space is cheap, internet connections are cheap, and even if the uncompressed difference is 1%, it's worth the additional cost. Sorry you don't feel the same way, but how is the "solution" to force the devs to do thousands of man-hours of compression/optimization, and then either force users to have compressed assets or spend even MORE developer time programming in the ability to switch to uncompressed assets which are a separate download?

The whole "the game is HOW MANY GIGABYTES!?!?!??1!??!?eleven" thing seems more like a bunch of hemming and hawing over nothing. If the fact that it's 50GB stops you from buying the game, then you were never really a customer to begin with.
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Ah dammit i almsot have to download more then 30 min on my 300/300 line tongue.gif

Murica is really behind on internet speeds these days, we can go to 500/500 by the end of this year thumb.gif
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post #25 of 58
All this new games being 30-40gb are the reason my 4tb hard drive filled up so quick
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I guess that extra 5tb drive i just purchased will be good for all these stupidly massive games that have come lately
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50 gb wouldn't stop me from getting a game,but it's just that it wasn't long ago when games were commonly under 10 gb.

Like crysis 2 for instance was 9gb.

I think this is why people find the required hd space lately a little crazy.

I think it's just because modern games just have a lot more to them?
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50 gb wouldn't stop me from getting a game,but it's just that it wasn't long ago when games were commonly under 10 gb.

Like crysis 2 for instance was 9gb.

I think this is why people find the required hd space lately a little crazy.

I think it's just because modern games just have a lot more to them?

Don't forget, though, Crysis 2 required 2 separate downloads after the fact to get the true PC experience. A high-res texture pack, and a DX11 pack.

Also don't forget that the PC version of Crysis 2 was lambasted for being "infected" and dumbed-down by consoles from the ground up.

Developers can't win. Compressed assets piss off the elitists, and uncompressed assets piss off people with crappy internet.
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So guys should the game size be tailored to your specifik connection or should we go ahead and take the lowest possible connection somebody on the planet has and adjust game size to that so everybody can download it?

Don't get me wrong if these 50gb's are filled with different uncompressed audio packs then they should really be moved to a seperate download. Other then that it sucks that you guys are capped but you can't always expect devs to cater to the lower end of bandwidth and stuff like that.

Just like current good looking AAA titles don't have 10 year old GPU's as minimum requirement anymore.
    
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Hard drive sizes have EXPLODED in the past 2 years, man. You can buy 6TB and 8TB drives now, and besides, even a 2TB drive will hold 30 games like Evolve while still having enough free space to defrag. Back in the day, hard drives were MASSIVELY more limiting than they are now. I distinctly remember having to juggle which games I wanted installed on my 100MB hard drive back in the 90s.
In my opinion, having uncompressed assets is ALWAYS a good thing. Hard drive space is cheap, internet connections are cheap, and even if the uncompressed difference is 1%, it's worth the additional cost. Sorry you don't feel the same way, but how is the "solution" to force the devs to do thousands of man-hours of compression/optimization, and then either force users to have compressed assets or spend even MORE developer time programming in the ability to switch to uncompressed assets which are a separate download?

The whole "the game is HOW MANY GIGABYTES!?!?!??1!??!?eleven" thing seems more like a bunch of hemming and hawing over nothing. If the fact that it's 50GB stops you from buying the game, then you were never really a customer to begin with.

Your statements show your lack of experience and shortsightedness of the entire situation, which isn't unexpected given your post history.

Either way, capacity should always be a consideration, as much of what you attempted to convey doesn't apply to a lot of people.
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So guys should the game size be tailored to your specifik connection or should we go ahead and take the lowest possible connection somebody on the planet has and adjust game size to that so everybody can download it?

Don't get me wrong if these 50gb's are filled with different uncompressed audio packs then they should really be moved to a seperate download. Other then that it sucks that you guys are capped but you can't always expect devs to cater to the lower end of bandwidth and stuff like that.

Just like current good looking AAA titles don't have 10 year old GPU's as minimum requirement anymore.

I am not capped, I own an ISP, so it is literally of no concern for me personally as I have access to bandwidth that the average person could only dream of touching. There are, however, a lot of people with legitimate concerns in terms of time, bandwidth, data caps, and storage capacity.

The issue of end user customized deployments shouldn't even be a contentious one, as they have been done for decades. If you are going to push a multiple GB patch to an end user, then having a custom deployment approach would actually benefit the developer.

If instead of shoving a (just an example) 5 GB patch to an end user, you are able to shove a 1.5GB patch because they dump extra assets, that is better for you as the provider/developer. Providing the most basic files to the end user, and allowing them to download and add the extras they may need/want is something Linux has been doing since pretty much the beginning. You can do a Networked Debian deployment with a file that is measured in MBs, and at the end of it have several times that storage used due to the options selected at deployment.

In the end, what I am talking about isn't something exotic and has been used extensively over the decades. Gaming just hasn't opted in on the notion yet, for some stupid reason.
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