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What makes it low spec? Surely you are not simply referring to the resolution? I saw on another site where someone was choosing between an IPS 1600x900 display vs a standard 1080p display and people recommended the IPS as it would have better colour and would play PC games better due to the reduction in screen resolution.

I game on 1440x900 now and my PC games look fantastic.

1080 vs 900, not much difference imo. Its the panel that makes the picture look good in this case.
post #12 of 35
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What makes it low spec? Surely you are not simply referring to the resolution? I saw on another site where someone was choosing between an IPS 1600x900 display vs a standard 1080p display and people recommended the IPS as it would have better colour and would play PC games better due to the reduction in screen resolution.

I game on 1440x900 now and my PC games look fantastic.

Low resolution, high latency, possibly high ghosting/blur etc. This is a office/workspace monitor, not one for gaming. The only real benefit is colour reproduction which you can get on any (possibly better) IPS panel with better specs for the same price albeit larger monitor size. The logic behind a lesser resolution does not really work for LCD and smaller screens. It will always look sharpest at whatever the native pixel count is, it's whether PPI clarity is something you care about or not. You could buy a 1280x720p (16:9) monitor and it will look sharp/clear, let your games run with higher frames (even the ps4 might benefit from 720) but the fact remains that you are trading lower pixel clarity over higher game IQ settings when you could go the other way quite easily with your 670 by changing a few settings (lower some settings in your games?).

In the end it is your money and if it fits your standards then by all means go for it. It just irks me that your niche requirements are forcing you to spend more money for not much better frown.gif
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the perfect buy for both is:

benq gw2760hm
iiyama PL X2888HS-B1
AOC M2870VQ
post #14 of 35
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1080 vs 900, not much difference imo. Its the panel that makes the picture look good in this case.

1080p is a 44% increase in pixel count (if my maths is correct) over an extra inch and a half (20 vs 21.5). Unless the OP really does not care for pixel density I would say that PPI does make a difference in clarity rather than just what type of panel a monitor uses. Colour reproduction cant hide visible pixels, otherwise what would be the point of going 1440 or 4k over a 1080p monitor?
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the perfect buy for both is:

benq gw2760hm
iiyama PL X2888HS-B1
AOC M2870VQ

I fear that those monitors are far too large for OP's needs
Edited by SpartanVXL - 1/12/15 at 1:05pm
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Low resolution, high latency, possibly high ghosting/blur etc. This is a office/workspace monitor, not one for gaming. The only real benefit is colour reproduction which you can get on any (possibly better) IPS panel with better specs for the same price albeit larger monitor size. The logic behind a lesser resolution does not really work for LCD and smaller screens. It will always look sharpest at whatever the native pixel count is, it's whether PPI clarity is something you care about or not. You could buy a 1280x720p (16:9) monitor and it will look sharp/clear, let your games run with higher frames (even the ps4 might benefit from 720) but the fact remains that you are trading lower pixel clarity over higher game IQ settings when you could go the other way quite easily with your 670 by changing a few settings (lower some settings in your games?).

In the end it is your money and if it fits your standards then by all means go for it. It just irks me that your niche requirements are forcing you to spend more money for not much better frown.gif

That is one negative with that dell monitor. It is not for gaming. At 8 ms response time, you may see some screen tear (even with vsync on) while playing fast twitch games, ie: fps.
post #16 of 35
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1080p is a 44% increase in pixel count (if my maths is correct) over an extra inch and a half (20 vs 21.5). Unless the OP really does not care for pixel density I would say that PPI does make a difference in clarity rather than just what type of panel a monitor uses. Colour reproduction cant hide visible pixels, otherwise what would be the point of going 1440 or 4k over a 1080p monitor?

There is even a larger difference when you compare 1080 vs 720. Depending on how close you sit in front of the monitor, you wont see the advantage of more pixels. I personally sit very close, so all those tiny jaggies annoy the hell out of me, hence my resolution preference.
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That is one negative with that dell monitor. It is not for gaming. At 8 ms response time, you may see some screen tear (even with vsync on) while playing fast twitch games, ie: fps.

I thought response time for IPS displays was slightly lower? Is 8ms vs 5ms really such a huge difference?
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There is even a larger difference when you compare 1080 vs 720. Depending on how close you sit in front of the monitor, you wont see the advantage of more pixels. I personally sit very close, so all those tiny jaggies annoy the hell out of me, hence my resolution preference.

Just for reference, I currently sit 33 inches away from mine.
    
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I thought response time for IPS displays was slightly lower? Is 8ms vs 5ms really such a huge difference?

I've had a monitor with 8ms, and when i played BF4 with vsync on, i see the screen tear when i turn fast. 5ms i dont know.
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I thought response time for IPS displays was slightly lower? Is 8ms vs 5ms really such a huge difference?
Just for reference, I currently sit 33 inches away from mine.

The quoted response time is for pixels to change colour from gray to gray (GTG), not its actually pixel response. You will likely see a higher number for true black-white-black spectrum change. This old thread covers it well on what advertised specs actually mean (or not mean), but as a general rule TN vs IPS the TN will always be faster due to how the tech operates; they are getting quite close with newer monitors coming out.

Sitting at such a distance you would generally want a larger monitor rather than pixel/colour but given your case I don't think you have much choice.

I apologise for what looks like just being negative criticism tongue.gif , what I would recommend is trying to find an AoC, Asus, Acer 21.5" 1080p IPS for just less than what you were about to spend on that 20" Dell.
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That's ok. Thinking about it, I would rather have a nice 1080p display, but the prospect of losing gaming performance over it is worrying me. I might end up having to upgrade my GPU as well as my desk!

But anyway, I did see a Dell one under their gaming category but it says the response time is 7ms. This is the one but i can get one for around £120:

http://accessories.euro.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=uk&cs=ukdhs1&l=en&sku=732312
    
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