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[WCCF] Intel Skylake Removes Support for USB based Windows 7 Installation – Major Platform Specs Confirmed

Poll Results: What OS will you upgrade to after Windows 7?

This is a multiple choice poll
  • 81% of voters (164)
    Windows (8, 10, etc.)
  • 18% of voters (37)
    Linux
  • 3% of voters (8)
    Other
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post #1 of 158
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I have to admit one thing though, Intel has absolute plausible deniability on this. No one can claim with 100% certainty that they are in league with Microsoft in trying to push Windows 7 users to finally get a move on. The reason for that is that the discarding of EHCI was inevitable sooner or later, and while they could have taken steps to remedy the problem easily, they have no compulsion to do so. The problem begins with the fact that Windows 7 does not have the code to support master xHCI based installation via USB, with only installation over EHCI allowed.

You might be thinking that one can always take the bootable DVD route and even though research indicates that dependence on optical drives is diminishing by the second, it has its own caveats. You better hope that your motherboard has a PS/2 port because even while installing from a DVD, the USB ports wont work (during the install setup). If you have just one PS/2 port you will have to switch your PS/2 based mouse and keyboard as required through the entire process. All this means that Windows 7 will be very very troublesome for people to install and in most of the cases, people will consider it not worth the effort. Even if you do get it to work, the lack of EHCI means there might be unforeseen compatibility issues in the future. Effectively, from Skylake, and thanks to Intel’s spec upgrade, Windows 7 is now officially an obsolete OS.

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post #2 of 158
Wow, this is dumb.
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If this is true, I suspect Microsoft will just release slip-streamed EHCI drivers that can be placed in the installer.

Similar to having to add SATA drivers to Windows XP installations because it only supports ATA.
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'If you have just one PS/2 port you will have to switch your PS/2 based mouse and keyboard as required through the entire process. '

Because hitting Tab repeatedly to navigate the windows 7 installer is not 2015 enough.
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post #5 of 158
wow, really? i think people will find a way though....
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post #6 of 158
Wait so does this affect Windows 8/10 then or...? Trying to figure out if I should care or not.
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post #7 of 158
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Wait so does this affect Windows 8/10 then or...? Trying to figure out if I should care or not.
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post #8 of 158
Yes finally people can stop with the "Windows 7 is better"... no its not its obsolete.
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If this is true, I suspect Microsoft will just release slip-streamed EHCI drivers that can be placed in the installer.

Similar to having to add SATA drivers to Windows XP installations because it only supports ATA.

    You really think Microsoft would release Windows 7 SP2 just to remedy this?  I mean, I think it would be great if they did, but I don't think they will.
 
 
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'If you have just one PS/2 port you will have to switch your PS/2 based mouse and keyboard as required through the entire process. '

Because hitting Tab repeatedly to navigate the windows 7 installer is not 2015 enough.

    I thought that comment was funny as well, since I have installed Windows 7 using either a keyboard or a mouse.  It really doesn't take both!
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Yes finally people can stop with the "Windows 7 is better"... no its not its obsolete.

Agreed. It's really old at this point. It was a great OS, but people seriously need to move on.
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