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Poll Results: What OS will you upgrade to after Windows 7?

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    Windows (8, 10, etc.)
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post #111 of 158
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I think it's quite reasonable to dislike Windows 8 for trying to force workflow changes on people for not very well founded reasons. Why should people have to tinker with things to get them back to previous Windows behavior? There should have been an option to select "classic desktop" on first boot of Windows 8/8.1 to not use the touch focused parts of the OS by default. As it stands default Windows 8 is kind of annoying without a touchscreen. We'll see if Windows 10 does a better job of offering a conventional desktop experience without having to tinker with it.

Windows is losing some of its inertia though because Windows 7 looks to be the last OS that will have decent legacy windows program compatibility options. Some of my Steam library back catalog doesn't work well if at all on Windows 8.1, doubtful it will get better with 10.

Windows 8 tried too hard to push a vision. Microsoft was floundering in mobile, and they wanted to try to leverage their desktop advantage to push people into buying their mobile products. A good business idea in theory, but poor in implementation. Though the explosion in x86 tablets is a very good thing, with many of them being cost-competitive with Android tablets (i.e. Dell Venue 8 Pro, etc). I'm probably going to pick up a Windows 8 tablet in the near future, much more versatile than an Android tablet. Windows RT though... that was an abysmal failure.
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Aww crud, I've been using Ubuntu all wrong. Imma get cracking on that terminal. Thanks for that information, I made it my new years resolution to use Linux more than Windows this year.
This is just simply true. Win98 had not problem, 2000/ME had issues, XP didn't; Vista had kinks, 7 was smooth, 8 is annoying (8.1 solved some problems), lets see how 10 fairs.

XP had issues. People just forget that the initial release of XP had issues because XP lasted so long. I remember switching back to 98SE because of lack of drivers.
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Agreed. It's really old at this point. It was a great OS, but people seriously need to move on.

I'm still running Windows 7 lol. I'll upgrade once Windows 10 launches. But I will not go to Windows 8.
post #113 of 158
we gonna need windows 8 / 8.1 or windows 10 for directx 12 anyways...
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You seem to be going on the assumption that Linux means doing everything from the command line. For many it is, but many other Linux users rarely see the command line.
Many you say. I'm not of that many. Even in ubuntu to do anything more in depth, and not even in depth, meant spending time in terminal. Between that nuisance, and the fact that every version of linux I tried outside of Ubuntu hated my laptop's bluetooth chip, I was out of there.
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You seem to be going on the assumption that Linux means doing everything from the command line. For many it is, but many other Linux users rarely see the command line.
Many you say. I'm not of that many. Even in ubuntu to do anything more in depth, and not even in depth, meant spending time in terminal. Between that nuisance, and the fact that every version of linux I tried outside of Ubuntu hated my laptop's bluetooth chip, I was out of there.

Elaborate pl0x.

and spending time in the terminal? you make it sound like you need to spend all day ( which can be true depending on the commands, e.g. installing something via the package manager but generally depending on your Internet connection in that case ), when in reality all you really need to do is enter a few commands.
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post #116 of 158
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Aww crud, I've been using Ubuntu all wrong. Imma get cracking on that terminal. Thanks for that information, I made it my new years resolution to use Linux more than Windows this year.
This is just simply true. Win98 had no problem, 2000/ME had issues, XP didn't; Vista had kinks, 7 was smooth, 8 is annoying (8.1 solved some problems), lets see how 10 fairs.

I used 2000 until Vista came out because it was literally the same as XP in 90% of things, excepting the fact that it used much less memory for the OS itself.

Vista was just as bad as Linux of the day. Every time you tried to do anything you got an annoying "Are you sure?" dialog box.

7 was Vista with fewer "Are you sure?" occurrences.

8 was windows phone on the desktop. Lightweight, fast, responsive... but a useless UI for a desktop.

8.1 just tweaked things to work better with a keyboard and mouse.
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Does it count if I run Windows 7 through windows 8 using some virtual program?

I'm pretty sure system properties in windows running VM always reports the correct CPU the host OS is using
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I'm pretty sure the only thing that is affected is installation of Windows 7 through USB. I am 99.9% certain that you can still install Windows 7 through an internal DVD drive (possibly not external USB drive), and that a hard drive with Windows 7 already installed will work perfectly fine as well. This doesn't make Windows 7 impossible to use on Skylake. It just makes installation more difficult for those accustomed to simply installing by a USB flash drive.

That and you have to use a PS/2 keyboard or mouse during installation. Almost all gaming motherboards have PS/2, and most low end ones have them as well. And I'm sure most of us have a PS/2 keyboard somewhere, whether it's an old keyboard or a fancy gaming PS/2 keyboard.
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Does it count if I run Windows 7 through windows 8 using some virtual program?

I'm pretty sure system properties in windows running VM always reports the correct CPU the host OS is using

I understood it as talk about the whole platform and not the CPU. The problem is the Windows 7 installation media not being able to boot with the USB that's in the chipset. That "EHCI" that's mentioned as missing is USB 2.0 stuff.

In your VM, the devices are emulated anyways, so there's no problem using a USB host controller that allows Windows 7's installation to work.
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Windows threads always make me smile, so much faux outrage and empty statements.
 
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