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Hoping I stuck this in the right section...

See Tsukuyomi Mk 3 Kai in my signature for what we're looking at now

At the moment I'm about to do a final round of upgrading to this rig, Sort of to give it a bit more lifespan before.. Well whatever it is that finally compels me to totally gut and build a new rig from the ground up. Tsukuyomi's core parts are 4 years old but to my knowledge theres not exactly a -huge- improvement moving to one of the new i7 processors for most tasks, At least not without going to DDR4 (Which is currently -quite- pricey..)

System is used for Gaming/Photography/Media center duties. Hooked up to my F8500 Plasma and my Asus PB278Q. In the future I may get a 1440p 144hz GSync monitor or one of those 21:9 Monitors, and I want to be ready for those options.

I'm planning to completely dismantle my rig, Clean everything up thoroughly, neaten up my wiring (which has been thrown into disarray after a few upgrade jobs)

The thing I'm CERTAINLY doing is throwing in a 512gb Samsung 840 EVO replacing my 600gb VeloRaptor as my C: drive (Games + Win 8.1)

The Veloraptor will become my Photography drive, IE, the drive where I work on my Lightroom catalog and stuff, since the SSD will not be large enough for such work.

The two drives I currently have as a RAID 1 that I use for downloads/pictures/documents will be switched to RAID 0, Since I should have multiple backups of that data anyways Im just not quite feeling the RAID 1 love enough to order a pair of 1tb drives to replace them


From there things are going fuzzy....

One thought is to trade out my Titanium HD for the newer Sound Blaster ZxR sound card, The little ACM control box looks very nice to solve a problem I have right now (Namely having to crawl behind my rig if I want to use a different pair of headphones on my rig or switch to my headset, not to mention the cables being a bit short from where im sitting to where the computer is) I'm picking the ZxR over say, a desktop DAC/Amp combo because it has a place to plug in a microphone, without having to climb around behind the computer/etc.

Couple that with a pair of AKG Q701 Quincy Jones Signature Series Headphones for when I don't need a headset (Keeping the Sennheiser PC350s for when I need communication, unless the beamforming microphone on the ZxR works well enough) to upgrade my audio capabilities.


Another thought is to, of course, Get a second MSI GTX 970 4G Gaming and go SLI again, This time with better results.


But I figured I'd throw this out there and listen to ideas from folks biggrin.gif
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To be honest, at this point, there is no point really in upgrading either the CPU or soundcard.

A 4790K is not much faster than a 2600K, save for the various things that take advantage of the new instruction sets, which you don't seem to be using much of. Haswell-E has little to offer you as you seem to be using applications that mostly involve single threaded performance. Perhaps if you were doing encoding, 3D rendering, or something along those lines, it might be of use. On top of that of course, Haswell means a new motherboard.

The Titanium HD is find as is. I doubt the newer Sound Blaster will be much of an upgrade. In fact I would even argue that in some ways, the Titanium HD might be a better card (can't remember specs off the top of my head). But regardless, I know the newer cards are not an upgrade.

The best course of action for you is to upgrade the SSD, and save the money spent on the sound card, and get the second 970. That will net you far better results. And of course, depending on how much impedance your headphones have, I'd get an amp for those. I'd look at what headphone - amp combos work best. It also depends on your genre of music I find as well.
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The Titanium HD is find as is. I doubt the newer Sound Blaster will be much of an upgrade. In fact I would even argue that in some ways, the Titanium HD might be a better card (can't remember specs off the top of my head). But regardless, I know the newer cards are not an upgrade.

The best course of action for you is to upgrade the SSD, and save the money spent on the sound card, and get the second 970. That will net you far better results. And of course, depending on how much impedance your headphones have, I'd get an amp for those. I'd look at what headphone - amp combos work best. It also depends on your genre of music I find as well.

I considered a DAC/Amp but the problem is those do not generally have a microphone input on them, I suppose I could simply leave my PC350 plugged into the Titanium HD and then just plug in the USB DAC/Amp combo as well and just switch between the two of them as needed...

As for impedence the PC350s are 150 ohm.. The Titanium HD has an on board headphone amp. The chips on the ZxR are better (Burr-Brown DACs for one) which was one reason I felt it would be an upgrade. The ZXR also lets me put the amplified headphone jack and a microphone jack on the desk which fixes the fact the PC350's cable is a bit on the short side with how my desk currently is

But as i said i could just leave the Titanium HD for my PC350s and then add like, an Audioengine D2 or a FiiO E7 + their desktop dock (Which would serve double duty as working with my laptop as well..)

food for thought at least

Or just get those AKG cans, they're regarded as pretty awesome for gaming ;D
Edited by KenjiS - 1/12/15 at 7:02pm
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I'm not much of an audio guy nowadays (half deaf in one ear). But as the above poster said 4790k is not worth it. By you getting the SSD you will notice more improvement that way. 2nd 970 will help possibly depending what res your playing at or doing. Heres a comparison of the 2600k, 3770k, 4770k.

http://www.ocaholic.ch/modules/smartsection/item.php?itemid=1164
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I'm not much of an audio guy nowadays (half deaf in one ear). But as the above poster said 4790k is not worth it. By you getting the SSD you will notice more improvement that way. 2nd 970 will help possibly depending what res your playing at or doing. Heres a comparison of the 2600k, 3770k, 4770k.

http://www.ocaholic.ch/modules/smartsection/item.php?itemid=1164

I pretty much expected that, everything I've seen has said "minor" improvement from going to any new i7 for 99% of what im doing...

Already have the SSD, more or less was deciding on what else to do while im ripping it to pieces and at the moment I've decided on getting the AKG Q701s and probubly a second 970 (I'm at 1440p.. The extra oomph would be appreciated in several games im playing, such as Inquisition which is SLI-enabled and gets a good 95% increase from what i saw)
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