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It will be a MID-RANGE , when something better comes out. If it beats annything else on the market, it ain't Mid-range.
Architecture doesn't mean a thing when it is still not released.

It does mean it's not as much of an improvement over the 780ti as a potential buyer would expect from being labeled '980'. Less so than 680 > 580 and 780 > 680. Even Nvidia has acknowledged this during the introduction of the product with their CEO comparing it to the 680 instead.

Question is will the 380/390 from AMD provide a clearer performance difference compared to existing cards? If it really does end up sporting HBM memory then at the very least they will have a big jump in memory bandwidth just a matter of what use they manage to put it to.
Edited by Vesku - 1/15/15 at 12:17am
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post #392 of 772
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It will be a MID-RANGE , when something better comes out. If it beats annything else on the market, it ain't Mid-range.
Architecture doesn't mean a thing when it is still not released.

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It will be a MID-RANGE , when something better comes out.
But saying WHAT IT WOULD BE and comparing what there is currently existing with something that doesn't exists yet is rather stupid.

In relation to this thread it is "what level of performance would make it a realistic upgrade option from the 780 and 290 series, especially if it is close to that 300W TDP in terms of power usage?" Imo, ~20% faster than stock 980 would put it at the kind of performance that is generally expected stepping up a GPU generation.
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Ok looking at that id wait to 2070 when i will be soon dead to get a gpu doh.gif



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No what we're saying is that nVidia is so far ahead of the game in the producing, developing and marketing. That they can now put lipstick on a pig and call it Kate Upton.

To nVidia the 980 is a flagship card, just like the 680 was before it. End of discussion.

Just because you want to debate how they did things in the past is not how they do things now.

More or less my opinion.

ALso , 980 has ~15% performance increase over the 780 Ti , while the 780 Ti has over 30% performance increase compared to the 680.

nVidia are stilll using the same memory technology , even though the acrhitecture is different , it will soon hit a wall ( if it isn't already reaached ). AMD on the other hand , if are really researching the HBM , should givve them a nice kick.
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Hopefully i didn't sold my V1000 PSU When i bought those 980s it should serve me well with 2 of those 300 watts babies biggrin.gif ...... and yes the 980 is a mid range chip with premium price tag and people arguing about the opposite don't have a 980 in their hands or are frustrated about the fact that they have paid 550$ for a mid chip and they are legitimating their purchase.
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hey guy tdp is not power comsumption just saying it the estimated heat output like your electric heating appliance of what i understand.
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All but an small amount of electricity used by a piece of silicon is converted into heat in the immediate short term. In the long term (minutes), all of it is lost as heat. There's some residual energy left in non-volatile storage, but for all intents and purposes, thermal power is power consumption.

There's an argument that TDP != power consumption, but that's because of the old loose TDP specs of the desktop era. Mobile oriented designs nowadays are very serious about long term TDP.
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the question is 300W average or peak? specially when spikes can go like 3times the average power consumption.

if this is 300W average then be expected to need a 800W PSU for this baby, peaks reaching 600W can easily trip OCP on a 700W PSU.

Umm... double, let alone triple? Hell no. A 50 watt spike, at most. And that's pushing it.

you talk as if average load meant 90%~100% GPU usage.

average is 50%~60% GPU load or something like a general game, and peak is 99% GPU load or something like a stress-test.
peak and spikes are different, spikes are that rare occasion where it glitches and exceeds a normal power draw.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/graphics-card-power-supply-balance,3979-2.html


TL;DR - 3times might've been an overstatement, but 2times is quite likely. don't underestimate what GPUs could pull.
Edited by epic1337 - 1/15/15 at 1:10am
post #399 of 772
Man this thread... How do you get 40 pages of back and forth from this news? tongue.gif

let's do a tl;dr

-AMD's next GPUs will be 28nm
-20nm isn't happening
-AMD's next flagship will use HBM, and will have a max of 4GB
-AMD's next flagship will have a big die
-AMD's next flagship will face off against GM200, not GM204
-The chances of the chiphell leaks being accurate is almost nonexistent for obvious reasons
-Leaks actually do happen through linkedin quite often, how accurate the are is another question entirely
-People don't really care about the power bill but more about noise and heat dumped into a room
-GM204 is a mid range chip sold at high end prices
-GM204 is the GK104, GF114, GF104 equivalent
-GM200 is the GK110, GF110, GF100, GT200b, GT200, G80 equivalent
-GM200 is basically a GM204 * 1.5 (+ maybe FP64) except for clocks
 
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-People don't really care about the power bill but more about noise and heat dumped into a room

not if users had 650W PSUs and end up frying them, even though R9-290X could fit in it nicely.
i heard you could kill a 750W PSU with a R9-295X2, though it did had a 500W TDP.
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