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Poll Results: FX6350 or FX9590

 
  • 36% (8)
    FX9590
  • 63% (14)
    FX6350
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post #91 of 178
As an FX-6350 Owner: Don't. Don't waste your money if you care about performance. Even at 4.6GHz it's a constant bottleneck for a single GTX 770.
Edited by cookieboyeli - 1/23/15 at 1:56pm
post #92 of 178
That FX-8310 sale got me thinking... (Just what I gather about the 8-core Vishera chips based on reading around OCN especially previous posts in this thread... I am not from AMD and have no proof of anything!)

Speculation 1
AMD kept the same design "tape-out"/"mask" but figured out different lithography process variations which affect the chemistry/structure of the transistors, allowing them to control the "leakage" and therefore the maximum voltage and clock speed possible.

Speculation 2
The high-leaking chips although clocked higher at stock seem to reach lower overclocks than the original, power delivery and cooling are the limiting factors rather than the silicon itself even in record-attempt liquid nitrogen runs. Conversely, the low leaking chips although clocked lower at stock may reach higher overclocks under ordinary cooling.

Speculation 3
Original process -> FX-8350, 125 watts (world records FX-8350 @ 8.6GHz, later FX-8370 @ 8.7GHz)
High leakage process -> FX-9590, 220 watts (world record FX-9590 @ 8.3GHz)
Low leakage process -> FX-8370E, 95 watts (world record FX-8370E @ 8.3GHz)

Speculation 4
Then they bin them based on reachable clockspeeds at the specified TDP. Maybe some better chips get put in the lower bins to fill demand, but there is no way to tell as demand (and therefore down-binning of "better" chips) can fluctuate.

Speculation 5
Bin ranking for each process:
Low leakage: 8370E, 8310, 8320E
Mid leakage: 8370, 8350, 8320, 8300
High leakage: 9590, 9370

Speculation 6
First came out the 8350 and 8320, then eventually AMD started binning the best 8350's into 8370's which have exactly the same specs except for a 0.1GHz higher turbo speed. New 8350's still meet the stock specs but the chance of getting a "golden" chip becomes lower. To get the best odds of receiving a golden chip you should get the highest bin of the process.
    
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post #93 of 178
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Why limit yourself to 6 cores, so my vote is 9590

Why waste your money on an overclocked 8350? Get a 8320 smile.gif
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post #94 of 178
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Originally Posted by ltpdttcdft View Post

Why limit yourself to 6 cores, so my vote is 9590

I think OP already ordered a 8370e, good choice (way less heat).

I did indeed order an 8370e, though this thread is still interesting in terms of new things lol.
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Originally Posted by xKrNMBoYx View Post

Honestly I don't think the 9590 is worth the extra $110 over the 6350. Now if you were asking if it's worth getting the FX 8310 over the FX 6350 I would say YES. At $89.99 after MIR on Tiger Direct I believe it's a much better choice than an FX 6-Core. If you ordered the 8370E great job, if you didn't I would highly suggest you look at the FX 8310 which is a 95W 3.4GHz base and 4.3 Turbo 8-Core.

Hmm, fair points. I've got two threads educating me on this right now lol, lots of things I never knew prior. But I did end up ordering an 8370e.
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I did indeed order an 8370e, though this thread is still interesting in terms of new things lol.
Hmm, fair points. I've got two threads educating me on this right now lol, lots of things I never knew prior. But I did end up ordering an 8370e.

8370E is a good choice, I don't recall what board you settled on though?
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post #96 of 178
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8370E is a good choice, I don't recall what board you settled on though?

I think it is the high end Asus Crosshair V
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I think it is the high end Asus Crosshair V

Awesome,

if there is any chance of getting 5GHz on that chip, it certainly improves with that board.
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post #98 of 178
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Awesome,

if there is any chance of getting 5GHz on that chip, it certainly improves with that board.

For sure that's the board that'll get it there smile.gif
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For sure that's the board that'll get it there smile.gif

That is one heck of a great board!! I'm biased of course because I'm running one.

It may be possible with that board that the VRM cooling will need to be reworked at high MHZ. The VRMs on my board were getting up to 65c @ 5Ghz which I was not comfortable with.

The solution was to remove the heatsinks and garbage thermal gunk- and replace with a high end compound. That dropped VRM temps by 7c at full load.

The OP should also be aware that ramping that chip to 5Ghz is going to make the chip's wattage go up to right around the level of a 9590.... there's no free lunch smile.gif
post #100 of 178
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The OP should also be aware that ramping that chip to 5Ghz is going to make the chip's wattage go up to right around the level of a 9590.... there's no free lunch smile.gif


Which is why the 9590 get's bought. Guranteed OC out of the box basically.


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