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The Canadian government has warned Big Content that they are not allowed to go around threatening people it thinks are pirates – like they do in other countries.

Big Content has taken to sending letters to Canadians who illegally download movies, music and books with penalties just like it does in the US. The only problem is that it is threatening them with breaches in laws which only exist in the kangaroo courts of the US.
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It all started when University of Ottawa law professor and respected industry blogger Michael Geist posted a letter from a rights holder that threatened civil liabilities of up to $150,000 per infringment.

However Canadian law caps liability for non-commercial infringements by individuals at $5,000.

Recent legal amendments require ISPs to pass on to their customers copyright infringement notices from media companies.

lol they sent Michael Geist a letter.... bad idea.

http://fudzilla.com/news/36718-big-content-warned-to-stop-scaring-canadians

to quote peter sunde "your law is not my law"
Edited by Master__Shake - 1/13/15 at 6:09pm
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I heard this a few days ago, the letters would threaten that they could sue you for hundreds of thousands of dollars. In reality, the company can really only sue you for $5000 if you're caught downloading things illegally. :rolleyes: 

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Even $5000 is massively excessive, you can purchase it for what $30 on blu-ray? How do they justify $5000 or $150,000 in the US? That's enough to destroy a persons life, mortgage the house, become homeless.

I like to see them do something smart and say, hey we can see you have download our movie illegally, follow this link and pay for the physical media or digatal copy code for these services for half price since its obvious you didn't like it enough to buy it in the first place and we will be cool...
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threatened civil liabilities of up to $150,000 per infringment.

What ever happened to "let the punishment fit the crime"?
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Originally Posted by L D4WG View Post

Even $5000 is massively excessive, you can purchase it for what $30 on blu-ray? How do they justify $5000 or $150,000 in the US? That's enough to destroy a persons life, mortgage the house, become homeless.

That's $5,000 total - regardless of how many things you pirated.

The $150,000 however, is per item. Download the first series of Game of Thrones for example, and you would be liable for $1.5m.
Edited by GingerJohn - 1/13/15 at 6:53pm
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Only $5,000? (jk). In all seriousness though, I wonder what damages would be limited to in a similar situation here in the United States of "You Hurt my Feelings So I'm Gonna Sue".
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Keep your American laws out of Canada, thanks.
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Originally Posted by GingerJohn View Post

What ever happened to "let the punishment fit the crime"?
That's $5,000 total - regardless of how many things you pirated.

The $150,000 however, is per item. Download the first series of Game of Thrones for example, and you would be liable for $1.5m.

What the heck! No limits?
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Keep your American laws out of Canada, thanks.

Agreed - especially (and unrelated) your labour laws.
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What the heck! No limits?

That is how I read it, but note that I am not a lawyer.

Also note that I just used Game of Thrones as an example; HBO are apparently not all that concerned with piracy of Game of Thrones - although obviously you still shouldn't do it.

Edit: Yep - one woman was sued for $1.92m for downloading 24 songs. The cost was eventually dropped to $222,000 after three hearings.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/09/11/entertainment-us-copyright-thomasrasset-idUSBRE88A1CH20120911
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Even $5000 is massively excessive, you can purchase it for what $30 on blu-ray? How do they justify $5000 or $150,000 in the US? That's enough to destroy a persons life, mortgage the house, become homeless.

I like to see them do something smart and say, hey we can see you have download our movie illegally, follow this link and pay for the physical media or digatal copy code for these services for half price since its obvious you didn't like it enough to buy it in the first place and we will be cool...

It's called punitive damages. If you can't do the time, don't do the crime.
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It's called punitive damages. If you can't do the time, don't do the crime.

I would like to see how they justify $150,000 per item. I mean there's punitive damages, then there is putting someone in debt for the rest of their life for downloading a single album's worth of songs. Does that seem proportional to you?
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