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post #11 of 22
wow, you have 4 radiators, to cool a CPU and 2 video cards.

is any of the hardware clocked like the CPU?

ok so you have a lot of hardware, and a good idea of how to use it, are you willing to play with the configuration a little, maybe even get the temps more consistent and stable across both cards?

I enjoy water cooling, and I have been doing it for about 20 years, my builds don't look all the good, but I build them for performance, not looks.(well, I did try to make one look nice, it kind of does)

I have seen some really nice looking rigs over the years, but there is one issue that I have seen with some of them, they certainly have enough hardware to keep the components cool, but the rig itself does not preform any better than a good air cooled unit. yours actually does preform pretty well, I think, I get why the first card is hotter, I have run into this kind of issue with my own build a few years ago, it was a vacuum issue for me, the tube between the CPU and the first video card was getting sucked together.

I have found that most of these kinds of troubles, are configuration issues, in most cases, and with a few small tweaks to how things are routed to each other, I have been able to fix these kinds of issues with my own builds.

house temps are right around 28C for most of the year,

this is a earlier build I did it has 2 radiators in parallel with each other, it has 2 X 240mm radiators, it has a CPU and GPU in series with each other, but the CPU and GPU water blocks are older blocks, with a open high flow design, so the flow rate on this system is 6LPM.
https://imageshack.com/i/04alldone003j
https://imageshack.com/i/joalldone006j

the load temps on this build are.
CPU 41C
GPU 51C
this system is a stock system with no clocks on the hardware

I did this build as a serial/parallel build it also has a flow rate of 6LPM, it has 1 X 360mm monstra radiator a CPU and GPU in parallel with each other, it looks nice, a lot went into making it look nice.
https://imageshack.com/i/0vfi2nJ
https://imageshack.com/i/exwiFW7Vj
https://imageshack.com/i/ezPiu5JIj

the load temps on this build are
CPU 48C
GPU 53C
https://imageshack.com/i/npuzs7j
not as good on temps as the older build, but also there is not as much radiator space on this build.
this system is also a stock system no clocks on the hardware

and the final build is my gaming rig, it has 2 X 360mm radiators in parallel with each other, and a CPU and 2 X GPU's in parallel with each other on a 3-way parallel configuration, this system is clocked, the CPU is at 4Ghz, the GPU's are at 580Mhz, and the memory is at 1600Mhz.






the load temps of the hardware are
CPU - 54C
GPU 1 - 45C
GPU 2 - 45C

the water temps at load are
33-34C
the delta t of the system at load is 4C
Link to Gallery
this system has a total flow rate of 9.6LPM
have a look at the total post
http://www.overclock.net/t/1573189/serial-vs-parallel-9-6lpm
if this system was stock with no clocks on any of the hardware, the load temps would be.
CPU - 35C
GPU1 - 37C
GPU2 - 37C
so I hope this helps with your rig, let me know please.
Edited by toolmaker03 - 9/26/15 at 8:06am
post #12 of 22
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thanks for your reply.

Yeah you are right it would be a good test to try to put the 2 cards in parallel instead of serial.

But honestly i don't think i will bother draining the whole system once again. it works and it's silent, wich is my goal smile.gif
i just wanted to share my experience. especialy about the case moding wich is great improvement on temps !

I would plan it for the next maintenance schedule maybe !
Edited by neojack - 9/26/15 at 6:45pm
    
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post #13 of 22
lol, yea I am the same way, it took me three years to come up with this design, as I would only try new configurations when I had issues with the system, and needed to take the system apart anyway.
give a shout out when your ready.
post #14 of 22
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Very bad news here.
2 days ago i was playing my favorite game, when my PC shutted of completely.

After a quick search, i have found a LEAK on the EK Supremacy MX block !
the water does not leak from the fittings, but from the body of the waterblock itself.






you can see on the pictures how the fitting is tightly secure with a tie-rap, and it's dry around it.
the water comes from the body, and here is an additionnal picture to prove it :




you can see how the cap is slightly off.
on this corner, there is no screw to seal the cap, because they have their LOGO on there !
since when looks > safety in watercooling ? it's pure nonsense.


You can see here the water on the power plug. I thinks it's the cause of the shutdown, the PSU detected something wrong and lauched an emergency shut-off



so i Drained the loop, installed my old Air Cooler (212 Evo) and I was able to boot on windows !
i feel very lucky about this. Leaks like this can destroy multiple parts on a PC


I searched online, and decided to order a new CPU block, a watercool Heatkiller IV Full Copper with backplate

i will contact PerformancePCs, but since i'm in canada, i wonder if i will bother sending back a 50$ waterblock.
edit : i'm 2 days off for the 30 days RMA warranty. I still contacted them an provided them a link to this post.

I guess going for cheap products is a mistake on watercooling. I learned the hard way.


Since I was ordering stuff, i also ordered :
- Bitspower Compression fittings
- A couple multi-GPU fittings (would be better than using a piece of tubing, it was a pain to install this way and i was affraid to bend a pcie port)
- ZMT tubing (with the difference of temperature between my 2 GPU blocks (one new, one 9 months old), i suspect plasticizer build-on inside the 1st GPU block)
- will buy automotive coolant for my car, and use it as an additive for my loop. it will prevent corrosion on the copper block.
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post #15 of 22
hay now don't go getting all upset about water cooling, I have been water cooling my systems for 20 years, and I have never and will never buy from EK, for several reasons this just adds to the many number of reasons why I wont.

ok with that said I can recommend some CPU blocks that I do trust.
the XSPC raystorm with acetal CPU block
the swiftech Apogee with acetal CPU block
the bitspower summit with acetal CPU block
and the aquacomputer cuplex cryos XT CPU blocks I would trust.
the rest I would not.

I use antifreeze in my loops, you have to build the loop strong enough to withstand the chemical.
post #16 of 22
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hello, thanks for your hints

don't worry i did not gave up watercooling, i just gave up on cheap watercooling products, and especialy EK ones

I had the AMD raystorm acetal for nearly 1 year and was very satisfied. Maybe i could have find just the mount for the Intel socket, but I decided to order the new king of the hill of 50$ CPU waterblocks. I was wrong.

i read your list, you put an emphasis on Acetal. it is safer than all-metalic waterblocks ? I just ordered a Heatkiller IV full copper to replace the EK supremacy mx
    
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no, but acrylic and antifreeze do not play well together, I have had no issues with bitspower reservoirs, but I believe they coat the reservoirs with a chemical resistant coating.
post #18 of 22
Damn.. well that has me worried, since I have a EK Supremacy CPU block as well.

Mine has been fine so far though. Its been almost 3 years now. Which reminds me, I really need to do some maintenance... drain/flush the system lol.
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alcohol and acrylic dont play well together. im not looking for an ingredients list for anti-freeze and others have used anti-freeze highly diluted in their loop. can someone show me acrylic failing because of anti-freeze/coolant?
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alcohol and acrylic dont play well together. im not looking for an ingredients list for anti-freeze and others have used anti-freeze highly diluted in their loop. can someone show me acrylic failing because of anti-freeze/coolant?

I cant. But I've been using mayhems pastel mixed in with distilled water for 3 years now. Haven't even flushed/changed it yet >_>
My computer is basically on 24/7 and my GPU is OC'd at 4.5Ghz so I don't think coolant and acrylic are an issue. Its either that or ive been insanely lucky so far.
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