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All of the EC-A mice had the improved latency from the get go. It was the evo's and evo CL's etc before them that had the big delay.
Well then I'm not sure what can cause this delay, but I'm sure it's there... There's some kind of issue because I can't play like with g400..it feels very different, not talking about the sensor itself, but there's a problem with those buttons /registering hits in cs go and source (and I'm not talking about the pistol rounds since I know I'm slower because of huanos)
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Well then I'm not sure what can cause this delay, but I'm sure it's there... There's some kind of issue because I can't play like with g400..it feels very different, not talking about the sensor itself, but there's a problem with those buttons /registering hits in cs go and source (and I'm not talking about the pistol rounds since I know I'm slower because of huanos)

That's all on you mang. I awp just as well with my ec1-a as I did with my mx510 back in the day, and with my Rival. My pistols and Rifles are better than ever, but that's just because of the shape working for my hands.

I know when I used my FK1, I could pistol well, and rifle ok but my awping was ****. Could be me being used to the stiffer clicks of the FK1 made the EC1-a clicks easy for me, and you just need to adjust? I mean, huano's aren't going to just magically make you suck at pistols.
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That's all on you mang. I awp just as well with my ec1-a as I did with my mx510 back in the day, and with my Rival. My pistols and Rifles are better than ever, but that's just because of the shape working for my hands.

I know when I used my FK1, I could pistol well, and rifle ok but my awping was ****. Could be me being used to the stiffer clicks of the FK1 made the EC1-a clicks easy for me, and you just need to adjust? I mean, huano's aren't going to just magically make you suck at pistols.

Thanks for your help shatterboxd3, i don't have any issues with shape, it's one of the most comfortable mouse I had, it fits me like a glove, maybe ec2 could be better but since it's smaller, I would have to curl my fingers a bit, and it would be like a claw grip... So I went with ec1-a and I don't regret my choice on size.
The only issue it's with registering hits, not only with pistols but with rifles... When I go to console on cs, no matter if cs go or source, I see the damage I do to other players, and I have to hit almost twice the shots then with g400... My sensitivity method I think its the right one, put the mouse on the left side of the mouse pad and measure the same cm until i can do a 360, so its not under aiming, the mouse don't feel slower, only more difficult to get a kill :-P
Sorry if I can't explain better... Maybe I'll post a video one of this days so you'll can see what I'm talking about.. :-)
Edited by Snakesoul - 9/22/15 at 3:08pm
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Originally Posted by MLJS54 View Post

It's the grainier FK1 shell.

Thanks for confirming it, looks like I might get one of these then smile.gif
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Thanks for your help shatterboxd3, i don't have any issues with shape, it's one of the most comfortable mouse I had, it fits me like a glove, maybe ec2 could be better but since it's smaller, I would have to curl my fingers a bit, and it would be like a claw grip... So I went with ec1-a and I don't regret my choice on size.
The only issue it's with registering hits, not only with pistols but with rifles... When I go to console on cs, no matter if cs go or source, I see the damage I do to other players, and I have to hit almost twice the shots then with g400... My sensitivity method I think its the right one, put the mouse on the left side of the mouse pad and measure the same cm until i can do a 360, so its not under aiming, the mouse don't feel slower, only more difficult to get a kill :-P
Sorry if I can't explain better... Maybe I'll post a video one of this days so you'll can see what I'm talking about.. :-)

Eh, it really seems to me like something you will get used to. I haven't seen a g400 tested against any of the recent zowie mice but I think they were only +5ms on the logi mice which really shouldn't have an effect on you. As long as you are comfortable with the shape the rest will follow smile.gif
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Eh, it really seems to me like something you will get used to. I haven't seen a g400 tested against any of the recent zowie mice but I think they were only +5ms on the logi mice which really shouldn't have an effect on you. As long as you are comfortable with the shape the rest will follow smile.gif

Not so sure about that, since i used it for 2 months straight and I couldn't get used to it, so I returned to g400, I'm not in love with the shape, but it seems better on those issues I talked about.. I love the zowie shape, not so much the scroll wheel, but I could live with that, but the other issues I was talking about, it's a complete turn off for me.. I'm going to sell it and one day, when zowie launches the same model with a better sensor I'll give it a try. For now I'm going to use g400 until he's dead hehehe
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If Zowie releases a glossy version of this I will pick up more than just one. But until then I will continue to use my EC1 Evo White as long as possible.

Too bad they no longer offer the glossy option for some of their mice. Not only is it comfortable for me and provides superb grip, but out of all mice I tried the glossy coating on the Zowies was the nicest!

Fingers crossed.
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Do these mice have the same cable thickness as the FK1?

EDIT: Never mind, looks like they are a little thinner actually, so can't go wrong on that.
Edited by etplayer - 9/24/15 at 12:15pm
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If Zowie releases a glossy version of this I will pick up more than just one. But until then I will continue to use my EC1 Evo White as long as possible.

Too bad they no longer offer the glossy option for some of their mice. Not only is it comfortable for me and provides superb grip, but out of all mice I tried the glossy coating on the Zowies was the nicest!

Fingers crossed.

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Do these mice have the same cable thickness as the FK1?

EDIT: Never mind, looks like they are a little thinner actually, so can't go wrong on that.
does the zowie Ec1-a have button latency ? or is fix in the EC-1A version ?
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does the zowie Ec1-a have button latency ? or is fix in the EC-1A version ?

If you go back a few pages in this thread you should see a video review on this. It's not fixed in the sense that it's gone, but it's down by half or round abouts according to all tests people have done and reviews. Or at least 6ms faster than what it was. In other good news, people have reported the shell of the ec1-a provides more leverage to click the button, so I would expect button spamming to a slight but noticable improvement, but I don't have mine yet so I can't say for sure.

It looks like zowie has put some effort in to improving on the performance yet again with their refreshed mice, jitter looks lower, albeit with slightly lower than reported cpi steps but that doesn't bother me so long as the cpi is usable for normal every day desktop usage. Speaking of this, I wondered if anyone can provide a few screenshots of polling rate tests with the mouse moving very fast, it would be great to know if that's improved as well smile.gif
Edited by etplayer - 9/26/15 at 5:59pm
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