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post #131 of 2765
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Ok, thats y i have 4 Zowie mice and 1 razer mouse smile.gif

must've been 4 really bad mice then, probably the worst batch ever
post #132 of 2765
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Originally Posted by trriL 
But as soon as I started to round corners I felt disorientated and hesitant. CS:GO is a game that seems to be, more often then not, won by situations where you have to move your crosshair corner to corner rather than wait with a sniper watching a super tight angle.
This is pretty much how I feel about this high click latency "hysteria". It seems that it's more often the players inept display of aim rather than the latency of the mouse that is the "problem" even though this is kind of arrogant to say.

I do wish that they improve on the mouse click latency as it's only beneficial to the players.
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I think that Zowie should stick to huanos since it has kind of become their hallmark, and it also being a subjective preference.
I kinda agree on this, especially for FPS, but only problem is for example that I would not use my FK1 if I were to play any RTS/MOBA games actively since I can feel some discomfort after right clicking on the mouse like a maniac for an hour or two.
post #133 of 2765
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Originally Posted by trriL 
I think that Zowie should stick to huanos since it has kind of become their hallmark, and it also being a subjective preference.
I kinda agree on this, especially for FPS, but only problem is for example that I would not use my FK1 if I were to play any RTS/MOBA games actively since I can feel some discomfort after right clicking on the mouse like a maniac for an hour or two.
Zowie could also probably do RTS/MOBA editions with Omrons, people would probably like that a lot.
post #134 of 2765
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Zowie could also probably do RTS/MOBA editions with Omrons, people would probably like that a lot.

yep that's probably the best thing they could do, another entire line for moba/mmorpg/rts
post #135 of 2765
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Zowie could also probably do RTS/MOBA editions with Omrons, people would probably like that a lot.

yep that's probably the best thing they could do, another entire line for moba/mmorpg/rts
I would think it would make the most sense if they did it like the CL edition. Where instead of just a different scroll wheel, they would have different switches.
post #136 of 2765
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I think that Zowie should stick to huanos since it has kind of become their hallmark, and it also being a subjective preference.

 

A hallmark they share with the likes of Sharkoon Fireglider and similar lower end products.

post #137 of 2765
It's people that buy into zowie's successful driverless gimmick that let zowie get away with releasing overpriced uninnovative products. Most mice today have onboard memory so you can uninstall after you've loading your settings onto the mouse. If we truly want zowie to improve, we need to make sure we are heard.
post #138 of 2765
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It's people that buy into zowie's successful driverless gimmick that let zowie get away with releasing overpriced uninnovative products. Most mice today have onboard memory so you can uninstall after you've loading your settings onto the mouse. If we truly want zowie to improve, we need to make sure we are heard.
Zowie's "uninnovative"-ness is what makes their products good. Where other mouse manufacturers are innovating by making heavy mice with 20 buttons, Zowie sticks to the basics that work.
post #139 of 2765
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Originally Posted by exitone View Post

It's people that buy into zowie's successful driverless gimmick that let zowie get away with releasing overpriced uninnovative products. Most mice today have onboard memory so you can uninstall after you've loading your settings onto the mouse. If we truly want zowie to improve, we need to make sure we are heard.

 

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Zowie's "uninnovative"-ness is what makes their products good. Where other mouse manufacturers are innovating by making heavy mice with 20 buttons, Zowie sticks to the basics that work.

 

Zowie isn't innovating though. They are moving the whole industry backwards. We've now got good "optical" sensors that have advantages that "laser" sensors had such as adjustable CPI in small increments and being able to fine tune the LOD. Zowie is moving everything back to the days when optical sensors only had one or two native CPI steps and everything else was interpolated. They are effectively hamstringing their own products because of a pointless marketing gimmick.

 

Being able to change CPI, polling rate and LOD without software is good. But, software to unlock full sensor functionality is important. I set up my Logitech G302 with software once and then uninstalled the software to never use it again. The settings are saved on the mouse and will work with any computer. It's effectively as "driverless" as a Zowie mouse but I've got access to full sensor functionality if I want to. When Zowie was using limited sensors such as the A3090 this didn't matter but now they're using highly customisable sensors such as the PMW-3310 they need to start taking advantage of that sensor functionality.


Edited by Dreyka - 1/16/15 at 4:51am
post #140 of 2765
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It's people that buy into zowie's successful driverless gimmick that let zowie get away with releasing overpriced uninnovative products. Most mice today have onboard memory so you can uninstall after you've loading your settings onto the mouse. If we truly want zowie to improve, we need to make sure we are heard.


Zowie isn't innovating though. They are moving the whole industry backwards. We've now got good "optical" sensors that have advantages that "laser" sensors had such as adjustable CPI in small increments and being able to fine tune the LOD. Zowie is moving everything back to the days when optical sensors only had one or two native CPI steps and everything else was interpolated. They are effectively hamstringing their own products because of a pointless marketing gimmick.

Being able to change CPI, polling rate and LOD without software is good. But, software to unlock full sensor functionality is important. I set up my Logitech G302 with software once and then uninstalled the software to never use it again. The settings are saved on the mouse and will work with any computer. It's effectively as "driverless" as a Zowie mouse but I've got access to full sensor functionality if I want to. When Zowie was using limited sensors such as the A3090 this didn't matter but now they're using highly customisable sensors such as the PMW-3310 they need to start taking advantage of that sensor functionality.
I agree that software to offer full sensor fuctionality would be good. But I wasn't even refering to that in my previous comment. I was replying to exitone's comment saying that "It's people that buy into zowie's successful driverless gimmick that let zowie get away with releasing overpriced uninnovative products." when in reality it's from people who want light ergnomic mice.
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