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I'm pretty sure all DPI steps on the Zowie mice are 'Native' steps, since they're not interpolated. Have you tried 800 DPI @ 500Hz yet to compare? Curious if you read about that on ESReality.com forums like I did. 400 DPI felt like trash compared to 800 DPI just now, but I still can't shake the feeling that something it awfully wrong with this mouse, it feels like the sensor is complete crap compared to my Deathadder 2013/Chroma.
2013 and Chroma uses better sensor than EC-series so that could be also why it feels that way . Although I tested myself 2 EC1-A's and it felt really sluggish and aiming required more effort. My EC2-A has the same problem. Even compared to other 3310. Funnily my FK2 feels way better than EC ones.(performance/sensor wise) It just feels like there's some sort of delay with the sensor on EC series or something.

Many people say positive things about EC-A's . Could it just be that we've gotten "lucky" and gotten defects tongue.gif I kinda feel like taking a 3rd gamble and see if the 3rd one behaves same way. Although for 3rd one I'd prolly order it from Amazon, instead of a local gaming/pc store.
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2013 and Chroma uses better sensor than EC-series so that could be also why it feels that way . Although I tested myself 2 EC1-A's and it felt really sluggish and aiming required more effort. My EC2-A has the same problem. Even compared to other 3310. Funnily my FK2 feels way better than EC ones.(performance/sensor wise) It just feels like there's some sort of delay with the sensor on EC series or something.

Many people say positive things about EC-A's . Could it just be that we've gotten "lucky" and gotten defects tongue.gif I kinda feel like taking a 3rd gamble and see if the 3rd one behaves same way. Although for 3rd one I'd prolly order it from Amazon, instead of a local gaming/pc store.

I got an EC1-A and I had serious swamp cursor, like...I couldn't hit anything, I tried everything I could to get it to feel correct to me, different pads, even no pad at all and just my desk (I know it's bad for the feet but I was desperate, I didn't want to go back to my 3305-DK) and I could NOT for the life of me find something that fit me well. I would get skipping randomly on some generic red pad, I had serious swamp cursor on my P-TF Speed, something was just off, it felt like the movement was being processed artificially or something.

Guess all three of us are just lucky with our defects. tongue.gif
    
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2013 and Chroma uses better sensor than EC-series so that could be also why it feels that way . Although I tested myself 2 EC1-A's and it felt really sluggish and aiming required more effort. My EC2-A has the same problem. Even compared to other 3310. Funnily my FK2 feels way better than EC ones.(performance/sensor wise) It just feels like there's some sort of delay with the sensor on EC series or something.

Many people say positive things about EC-A's . Could it just be that we've gotten "lucky" and gotten defects tongue.gif I kinda feel like taking a 3rd gamble and see if the 3rd one behaves same way. Although for 3rd one I'd prolly order it from Amazon, instead of a local gaming/pc store.

The SteelSeries Rival I had didn't feel as sluggish as this, which is odd. Using 800 DPI definitely improved it, and changing it to the Higher LoD setting, since I'm coming from a Deathadder 2013/Chroma. Did yours have a chipped trim lens by any chance? Here's some pics I took today; also including my old Zowie EC1-A that I RMA'd. It's like they purposely gave me another defective unit, it's a pretty unbelievable coincidence.
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I got an EC1-A and I had serious swamp cursor, like...I couldn't hit anything, I tried everything I could to get it to feel correct to me, different pads, even no pad at all and just my desk (I know it's bad for the feet but I was desperate, I didn't want to go back to my 3305-DK) and I could NOT for the life of me find something that fit me well. I would get skipping randomly on some generic red pad, I had serious swamp cursor on my P-TF Speed, something was just off, it felt like the movement was being processed artificially or something.

Guess all three of us are just lucky with our defects. tongue.gif
Yeah that's unlucky. I also tried it on a plain black cloth pad(Qck+) and then on my G-SR(blue one). Even tried hyperglide skates to see if it made difference and the cursor still felt weird to me. My other mice perform and behave normally though.

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The SteelSeries Rival I had didn't feel as sluggish as this, which is odd. Using 800 DPI definitely improved it, and changing it to the Higher LoD setting, since I'm coming from a Deathadder 2013/Chroma. Did yours have a chipped trim lens by any chance? Here's some pics I took today; also including my old Zowie EC1-A that I RMA'd. It's like they purposely gave me another defective unit, it's a pretty unbelievable coincidence.
I just checked the lens and it does look same as in your picture. Perhaps they sent you the same mouse that you RMA'd. Highly doubt it's supposed to look like that. Apart from the trimmed lens, when I squeeze the mouse lightly it squeeks from the sides. It feels like the screws are a bit loose. My FK2 feels just fine and the lens on it looks normal.

I guess I'll wait until they start reselling BenQ models and get one of those to try my luck for the third time.(the EC-A's I own is the white/black ones)
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Yeah that's unlucky. I also tried it on a plain black cloth pad(Qck+) and then on my G-SR(blue one). Even tried hyperglide skates to see if it made difference and the cursor still felt weird to me. My other mice perform and behave normally though.
I just checked the lens and it does look same as in your picture. Perhaps they sent you the same mouse that you RMA'd. Highly doubt it's supposed to look like that. Apart from the trimmed lens, when I squeeze the mouse lightly it squeeks from the sides. It feels like the screws are a bit loose. My FK2 feels just fine and the lens on it looks normal.

I guess I'll wait until they start reselling BenQ models and get one of those to try my luck for the third time.(the EC-A's I own is the white/black ones)
Different serial numbers. I just saw them tweet about Rexflo.net re-stocking the Zowie BenQ models..Why would they advertise those models when there's a mass recall for them?
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Different serial numbers. I just saw them tweet about Rexflo.net re-stocking the Zowie BenQ models..Why would they advertise those models when there's a mass recall for them?
As far as I know they just switched back to huanos, cause omrons caused double click issues. It's been couple weeks since they announced the recall. Just waiting to be able to get it from Amazon (europe). Checked facebook/twitter and Zowie said that the ones at Rexflo are with huano switches. I guess I'll have to wait for about a month before I can get one. frown.gif I'm only interested in the BenQ model cause of the "better" scroll wheel. And well hoping that I don't get another EC-A that feels sluggish tongue.gif
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As far as I know they just switched back to huanos, cause omrons caused double click issues. It's been couple weeks since they announced the recall. Just waiting to be able to get it from Amazon (europe). Checked facebook/twitter and Zowie said that the ones at Rexflo are with huano switches. I guess I'll have to wait for about a month before I can get one. frown.gif I'm only interested in the BenQ model cause of the "better" scroll wheel. And well hoping that I don't get another EC-A that feels sluggish tongue.gif

All they needed to do was fix the Mouse 4 + Mouse 5, and scroll wheel, and it would have been fine. I think they're going to be selling the Black/White Zowie mice for now? Unless they somehow produced the new colorway with Huano Switches in the last week or two since the recall. I might of completely misunderstood this though rolleyes.gif
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All they needed to do was fix the Mouse 4 + Mouse 5, and scroll wheel, and it would have been fine. I think they're going to be selling the Black/White Zowie mice for now? Unless they somehow produced the new colorway with Huano Switches in the last week or two since the recall. I might of completely misunderstood this though rolleyes.gif

The way the mouse is constructed there is no way to fix the m4 and m5 buttons. In order to get a better feel for the click there would need to be a separate board for the side buttons and the switches would need to be turned 90 degrees.
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I switch forth and back between EC1-A and IME 3.0 many times during the last weeks. Switching back to the IME 3.0 feels so nice everytime. Much more comfort for playing longer and also more consistent aim. Do you think I can still use IME 3.0? I heard the perfect control speed would be very low (1.5m/s@500Hz). Is this enough for cs go with 2.7 ingame sens for fast turning and precise flickshots? Or will I hit the max. speed very often? I can't really imagine how fast I move my mouse but 1,5m/s sounds extremely slow or is that ok? Thats the only thing which prevents me from just keeping IME3.0 and selling the EC1-A because I don't want to use a mouse which is technically outdated.
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The way the mouse is constructed there is no way to fix the m4 and m5 buttons. In order to get a better feel for the click there would need to be a separate board for the side buttons and the switches would need to be turned 90 degrees.
Excuse me if I am wrong, but don't they use almost exactly the same shape as the deathadder? yet somehow the deathadder can make the side buttons be good/feel good?
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