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I do primarily palm, last mouse I got a few weeks ago was the Gigabyte XM300 and it's a great mouse. (Or really the sensor is great -3988). But I did get comfortable with how my previous Naga (2012) fit my hand which is why I was looking at the Mionix. Also hear great things about Zowie mice and saw an EC1-A here at work so thought if the price is right ($46.57 with my discount) I might as well give it a shot (since I do like the shape as well even if it's not a fully contoured fit)
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I just rebought the EC2-A again from amazon. I got the red verison this time instead of the white verison. The mouse wheel don't feel as distinct as the white one and the clicks are lighter on the red verison. I thought the 16 step scroll wheel would make it harder to scroll than my G402. My g402 scroll wheel is tougher than my ec2-a. I don't know how I feel..
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Originally Posted by AuraDesruu View Post

I just rebought the EC2-A again from amazon. I got the red verison this time instead of the white verison. The mouse wheel don't feel as distinct as the white one and the clicks are lighter on the red verison. I thought the 16 step scroll wheel would make it harder to scroll than my G402. My g402 scroll wheel is tougher than my ec2-a. I don't know how I feel..
One of my friends just bought one from Amazon as well. The packaging has "changed". It used to be a simple open and plop off the plastic and go. But it looks like BenQ paid more employees to make sure they added tape to the packaging (inside and out) lol. I found it very hard to go back to my EC2-A after using other mice with much easier buttons to spam click. Note: it's not the Huano switches, it's the shell that make the buttons a lot more 'tactile' and stiff than others.
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One of my friends just bought one from Amazon as well. The packaging has "changed". It used to be a simple open and plop off the plastic and go. But it looks like BenQ paid more employees to make sure they added tape to the packaging (inside and out) lol. I found it very hard to go back to my EC2-A after using other mice with much easier buttons to spam click. Note: it's not the Huano switches, it's the shell that make the buttons a lot more 'tactile' and stiff than others.
Yeah I kinda knew that the shell made it stiffer to press. The clicks on my EC2-A feel super light compared to my white one. they almost feel like my G402 with 4 more grams of weight to actuate
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I'm no Logitech fanboy, but when I went from an EC2-A to a G303 (and now, I'm using a G900), it's very difficult to go back to Huano/Zowie switches. I used a DeathAdder for 3 years and getting used to a slight stiffness in mouse clicks really was challenging (resulted in a lot of frustrating matches online). The pros for the EC2-A for me is that it's easier to flick with the wrist and it's light.
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Got a new EC2-A yesterday, after my last one came to me defective.

Very happy with it so far, my aim is on point, the shape feels a LITTLE too small at times, but it's still very nice nonetheless. The sensor has no jitters or weird issues whatsoever, so I really can't complain.

Whether I'll keep using it or use the Revel, well, I'll know in about a month from now.
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A pretty common issue with the EC1-A/EC2-A that people are doing RMA's over to get the same problem is the right click can creak.
I solved this by pulling up the right click button and filing down the side, it moves left when you click it down and can grind against the compartment holding the mouse wheel.
Just file the side of the right click away until it no longer makes contact when you push it down.

Didn't find a solution anywhere so I made one.
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A pretty common issue with the EC1-A/EC2-A that people are doing RMA's over to get the same problem is the right click can creak.
I solved this by pulling up the right click button and filing down the side, it moves left when you click it down and can grind against the compartment holding the mouse wheel.
Just file the side of the right click away until it no longer makes contact when you push it down.

Didn't find a solution anywhere so I made one.

Wow. I gotta take apart my EC2-A again to see if this might do the trick. Thanks for sharing your solution. I know that it's easier (and cheaper) to create buttons that are all part of the whole mouse's shell, but when the buttons are segregated from the shell itself (like the G303 or G900), the clicks are usually crisper, better or good overall. The funny thing is, I've had a DeathAdder for 3+ years and it has a "buttons are part of the shell" design and it never creaked or felt awkward to me.
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Wow. I gotta take apart my EC2-A again to see if this might do the trick. Thanks for sharing your solution. I know that it's easier (and cheaper) to create buttons that are all part of the whole mouse's shell, but when the buttons are segregated from the shell itself (like the G303 or G900), the clicks are usually crisper, better or good overall. The funny thing is, I've had a DeathAdder for 3+ years and it has a "buttons are part of the shell" design and it never creaked or felt awkward to me.

Yea. You don't even need to take it apart if you're careful, you can just pull the right click up, it's pretty durable and won't snap or anything.
It's about the final 5mm or so of the inner side of the right click that needs to be removed.
You can see the creaking doesn't happen if you make sure it doesn't touch the wheel compartment when you push it down beforehand, by pushing down and to the right awkwardly in a way that would never actually work in real use.

That's all the issue is, design oversight, plastic rubbing plastic. Remove some plastic = problem gone.
It's not a build quality problem, it was a not testing our product problem.
Seems like they weren't expecting the shell of the right click to bend left when pushed down, if it went straight down as they were planning this wouldn't happen.

If the next EC2-A or whatever it's going to be called fixes the right click and has better thumb buttons, it will be a perfect 10/10 IMO.
Edited by Hunched - 7/25/16 at 8:43pm
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Hi all,

I just wanted to let you all know that the latest Zowie EC2-A batches don't seem to have the right mouse button creak issue (I ordered one from Benq's EU online store on July 15th and received it on 19th July), so it appears that they're adjusting things based on feedback from RMA's.

I ordered an EC1-A from Benq's EU online store and it should be arriving in the next couple of days (the EC2-A doesn't seem to have any issues that I've read about in this thread so far, it's just a tad too small for me to find comfortable as a palm gripper that prefers to have his hand On the mouse rather than around it). I'll let you know if there's anything different about that one too!

Bonus: I spoke to them on the phone and they got a brand new shipment in today which they will be delivering my EC1-A from today along with a GTF-X mat that I also ordered with it. Is there anything other than "don't counter-roll the mouse mat" tip in regards to this mat? (for anyone that owns it).
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