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post #2471 of 2813
I just got my EC2-A in from Amazon. I played CS for about an hour and so far I'm not sure if the size is right or not, it will probably take me a few days to figure that out. What I do know is I was fragging pretty well with it. I also like all the hardware on the mouse excluding the side button they are just meh (I knew they wouldn't be amazing before purchasing though). One thing that really surprised me though was how good the coating on the mouse feels it's very soft and it almost feels like grip tape for your hand. So far I'm very pleased and I have a feeling the ec1 might be too big for my grip so I'm glad I went with the ec2 first.
post #2472 of 2813
Good choice on the ec2-a. It's always better to buy a small mouse first because you can adjust your grip preferably.

Regarding the coating you must have gotten the benq version(red logo) because the zowie with the white logo had very slippery texture. I have to use some tennis overgrips just to hold it properly.
post #2473 of 2813
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Originally Posted by VESPA5 View Post

If you love the DA, you may or may not like the way the EC2-A is shaped (even though the popular description is that it's a smaller DA). The hump in the back slopes at a somewhat steep angle. I actually had to really change my grip style to cater to the size. All this did is made me miss my DA and eventually got an EC1-A.

Not sure if you were responding to me or or not, but I went with the EC1-A. I already felt like the EC1-A was a tad bit narrow for my liking after using a DeathAdder 2013 for so long, so I didn't want to risk it. Last time I tried to use the EC1-A, I absolutely hated the sensor in comparison to the Deathadders 3988/3989. I haven't been on my PC in ~5 months or used my Deathadder in that time, so hopefully I can adjust to the EC1-A much easier now, since I don't want to use a Deathadder ever again due to them breaking so damn easily.

Only reason I was debating the EC2-A even with ~20cm hands, is I read the sensor placement is ideal on the EC2-A, and on the EC1-A it's not, and that could have had something to do with my disliking for it. Only other thing would be the framerate difference, which I doubt I would be able to feel since the difference is only at higher tracking speeds.
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Originally Posted by mitavreb View Post

Good choice on the ec2-a. It's always better to buy a small mouse first because you can adjust your grip preferably.

Regarding the coating you must have gotten the benq version(red logo) because the zowie with the white logo had very slippery texture. I have to use some tennis overgrips just to hold it properly.

Tennis overgrips on the sides? I've read a lot of people saying the white logo Zowie coating was superior.
post #2474 of 2813
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Not sure if you were responding to me or or not, but I went with the EC1-A. I already felt like the EC1-A was a tad bit narrow for my liking after using a DeathAdder 2013 for so long, so I didn't want to risk it. Last time I tried to use the EC1-A, I absolutely hated the sensor in comparison to the Deathadders 3988/3989. I haven't been on my PC in ~5 months or used my Deathadder in that time, so hopefully I can adjust to the EC1-A much easier now, since I don't want to use a Deathadder ever again due to them breaking so damn easily.

I agree with you. The 3310 implementation of the EC1-A seems sluggish in comparison to the DA's 3389. What's odd is that my DA has taken a beating (multiple throws across the room) and keeps on ticking. I must've gotten a rare one. It outlasted my EC2-A (which I've had to take apart a few times because the Huano switches kept sticking and got stiffer with time). The thing about Zowie mice is that its main gimmick: softwareless/driverless - is also its weakness. Click and motion latency issues are addressed by buying the next mouse they release that improves on it.
post #2475 of 2813
The new benQ coatings are very grippy - that's one of the best parts.. not sure if some people don't like that kind of grip but it's very enjoyable... uhh but personally I'd just wait before getting a zowie when they jump on the 3360 train - maybe they'll make some internal improvements (I doubt it but maybe) so that'd probably be the best time to get one
post #2476 of 2813
Has the sluggish motion 'feeling' that people have talked about here with the Zowie 3310 ever been quantified? I was playing around this weekend with a G402 and DM Pro S compared to my EC2-A. What I noticed is that small adjustments on the G402 and DM Pro S seem a lot snappier, but that's not necessarily a good thing. I tend to overshoot on small corrections with those two, while with the EC2 I can make those 50-100 pixel adjustments more easily. Conversely on the EC2 my tracking seems to lag behind just a bit on fast moving targets, but that could just be skill related.

Whether it is sensor implementation, position, or less likely the combination of low weight and low static friction, there is a difference, but I can't quantify it and that bothers me.
post #2477 of 2813
It's shape and mouse skate glide, anything else is in your head mostly - the 'actual' dpi value also can be a little different. Sensor position is 'meh' and the biggest difference I guess is that more forward sensors feel easier to move when only moving your wrist

Also using 500hz can make tiny movements feel a little easier, but not a super big difference
post #2478 of 2813
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Originally Posted by Demi9OD View Post

Has the sluggish motion 'feeling' that people have talked about here with the Zowie 3310 ever been quantified? I was playing around this weekend with a G402 and DM Pro S compared to my EC2-A. What I noticed is that small adjustments on the G402 and DM Pro S seem a lot snappier, but that's not necessarily a good thing. I tend to overshoot on small corrections with those two, while with the EC2 I can make those 50-100 pixel adjustments more easily. Conversely on the EC2 my tracking seems to lag behind just a bit on fast moving targets, but that could just be skill related.

Whether it is sensor implementation, position, or less likely the combination of low weight and low static friction, there is a difference, but I can't quantify it and that bothers me.

It's been discussed in here before that the issue could be the much lower framerates (2,000, 4,000, & 6,500) and sensor placement, but I really don't know. I felt the same way when switching from a Deathadder 2013, it felt 'swamped' to me.
post #2479 of 2813
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Originally Posted by VESPA5 View Post

I agree with you. The 3310 implementation of the EC1-A seems sluggish in comparison to the DA's 3389. What's odd is that my DA has taken a beating (multiple throws across the room) and keeps on ticking. I must've gotten a rare one. It outlasted my EC2-A (which I've had to take apart a few times because the Huano switches kept sticking and got stiffer with time). The thing about Zowie mice is that its main gimmick: softwareless/driverless - is also its weakness. Click and motion latency issues are addressed by buying the next mouse they release that improves on it.

My DA 2013 lasted ~8 months before the little buffer piece in between the Mouse1 and the switch itself snapped, causing a rubbing noise when I click in certain places now. I got numerous DeathAdder Chroma's from my local BestBuy, they all had numerous issues, something I never experienced with the DeathAdder 2013 at all. Sounds like you got extremely lucky thumb.gif I'm hoping I can just adjust to the EC1-A quickly since I haven't used my DeathAdder Chroma in months, so I won't be so used to the Avago 3989.
post #2480 of 2813
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Originally Posted by agsz View Post

My DA 2013 lasted ~8 months before the little buffer piece in between the Mouse1 and the switch itself snapped, causing a rubbing noise when I click in certain places now. I got numerous DeathAdder Chroma's from my local BestBuy, they all had numerous issues, something I never experienced with the DeathAdder 2013 at all. Sounds like you got extremely lucky thumb.gif I'm hoping I can just adjust to the EC1-A quickly since I haven't used my DeathAdder Chroma in months, so I won't be so used to the Avago 3989.
I decided after I purchased the ec2-a that I was going to open my death adder and see if I could find the culprit of the double click. What I found was the clear piece on mouse 1 seemed to have a piece come off, I also found a black piece of plastic floating around in there. I'm not really surprised though as this was the mouse I would use when I played League of Legends. I have never raged harder than on that game. It felt as if I would slam my hands or my mouse down on the table at least once a game.
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