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post #71 of 2765
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Originally Posted by detto87 View Post

FK1 coating. Not sure how to feel about that.

The coating is nice for the first few months but then it gets greasy and oily. It feels a bit disgusting to put my hand on the FK1 now. Maybe I can clean it thoroughly?

Also interested about the wheel. My FK1 has a scrolling bug which caused me not only once a clutch situation. Therefore no use anymore for it in game (unbounded it).

I clean my FK1 with damp tissue every 3-4 days , or whenever it gets too oily that I dont feel comfortable using it , or just wiping it with dry tissue whenever I'm lazy and it feels oily after a few hours. Definitely seemed to be one of those mice that you need to clean often.
post #72 of 2765
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Originally Posted by oxidized View Post

i don't really know, i play csgo too, not like frequently but well, besides the game's numerous flaws, i didn't notice any other weird things coming from the g500s

I've played my fair share of TF2 as well and for some reason it's not as noticeable as it is in games like counter-strike.
post #73 of 2765
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Originally Posted by Ino. View Post

TF2 is not that dependent on click latency though, just like Quake. I think main AWPers in CS might be the ones most affected by it. It's much less of a problem for games with more movement.

I had no trouble ever with any Zowie and its clicks, but then I mainly played TF2/Quake/Battlefield.

It's 100% noticeable for me in CS GO. I used to be a main AWPer since the days of the MX510, and even today using the mx510, or even the Rival I hit fast flicks better than with the FK1. That said, I'll still be using the FK1 until I get my hands on the EC2-A, and have since started to try to adjust to using rifles.

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Originally Posted by zeflow View Post

The EC2 width is 40mm, and the EC2-A width is 60mm? That seems like a big change; is this accurate? Or am I reading the orginal EC dimensions wrong.

http://www.zowiegear.com/pr_image/ECAcom_002.jpg

It's 64/61 mm wide for the EC1-A/EC2 -A

The measurements of the EC1 EC2 on the site are mixing up height and width.
post #74 of 2765
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You can't expect to have no software and be able to turn off LEDs. They can put a switch for it but you can't expect a mouse to be solidly built at a reasonable price with 10 buttons on it.

Not liking a lit up scroll wheel is a fair opinion though. I personally like the way it looks though I have yet to try any EC mouse ever. I do very much like what they did for the FK1 on this respect.

 

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"I dislike LEDs that can't be turned off"

LOL

also this click latency everyone is talking about is anything relevant and is it Zowie exclusive? tbh i don't think so

 

I expect Zowie not to be lazy cheapskates at the price they charge. It seems they either don't understand what people want from their mice or don't care. It's pretty obvious that people here in general don't like LEDs and Zowie should have moved the CPI changer to the bottom of the mouse (like the FK) rather than stick a LED in the SCROLL WHEEL where it will always be seen. Considering they make so little changes between versions and don't even have to worry about building and maintaining software it's just ridiculous. It's just not defensible.

 

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Going from a Logitech mouse to a diff brand is completely noticeable. If we constantly have this attitude where we act ignorant to the problem it's never gonna get fixed. Zowie needs to start living up to their expectations. I used to LOVE Zowie and I would LOVE to own a new EC2-A if I knew they were doing something about click latency.

"ZOWIE GEAR is an innovative manufacturer of competitive gaming gear, founded late 2008 with a mission to develop the best competitive gaming gear available."

 

Zowie's marketing is just as much BS as everyone else. False compromises on software, not allowing full sensor functionality and high click latency. They had an opportunity to move the LED out of the scroll wheel but they didn't. It really shows that many of the people here are as gullible as the average consumer and it's just sad. Fanboyism hurts everyone and people should pressure Zowie to do better rather than defend what can't be defended.

 

 

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Originally Posted by discoprince View Post


I use a G302 and been using my ec2 evo CL, I notice no difference.

I understand that its a fact that it has a 15ms click delay and there should be close to none. but its the fact that its a 15ms click delay that i don't notice it (along with many other folks). its 15ms, not 150ms.

i've never seen anyone come on here and complain about that 20ms click delay on kinzu v2 either.

 

High click latency is objectively bad. It doesn't matter if you don't notice the difference because the fact is that there 15ms more delay than a G300 and that will have an effect on when the game registers you've clicked. If Zowie was about competitive gaming (they really aren't anymore than everyone else) then they'd be working to reduce that latency as much as possible. They aren't because they don't care.


Edited by Dreyka - 1/15/15 at 10:39am
post #75 of 2765
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High click latency is objectively bad. It doesn't matter if you don't notice the difference because the fact is that there 15ms more delay than a G300 and that will have an effect on when the game registers you've clicked. If Zowie was about competitive gaming (they really aren't anymore than everyone else) then they'd be working to reduce that latency as much as possible. They aren't because they don't care.

yeah, i agree, its just the fact that alot of people don't notice it and a small amount of nerds on here do. that's probably why they don't care. i believe it should be fixed though if they are at all serious about what they do.

but im playing cs go right now with my ec2 evo cL, im hardly missing headshots and im trying really hard to notice this 15ms delay. i friggin love this shape.

all im saying is, a 15ms click delay shouldn't bring the average person looking into this mouse a pause as to why they should/shouldn't buy it. its a great product besides this minor defect.
post #76 of 2765
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Originally Posted by discoprince View Post


yeah, i agree, its just the fact that alot of people don't notice it and a small amount of nerds on here do. that's probably why they don't care. i believe it should be fixed though if they are at all serious about what they do.

but im playing cs go right now with my ec2 evo cL, im hardly missing headshots and im trying really hard to notice this 15ms delay. i friggin love this shape.

 

Zowie says they are about competitive gaming. It should matter to them by definition because by definition competitive gaming is about maximising performance.

 

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ZOWIE GEAR is an innovative manufacturer of competitive gaming gear, founded late 2008 with a mission to develop the best competitive gaming gear available.
We are not limited by shareholders telling us what we can or cannot do. We are a free-minded company consisting of experienced and creative individuals, united in ZOWIE on a common ground; our passion for gaming. No boundaries. No compromises. Just gaming.

 

They fail at doing what they say they do. It's all just marketing BS.


Edited by Dreyka - 1/15/15 at 10:43am
post #77 of 2765
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Originally Posted by Dreyka View Post

Zowie says they are about competitive gaming. It should matter to them by definition because by definition competitive gaming is about maximising performance.

yeah i mean, are you not reading what im writing?

yeah but they arent failing at what they do.
post #78 of 2765
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Originally Posted by discoprince View Post

apparently there is a scroll wheel issue too, which none of my zowie mice have. i love their scroll wheels. but you know, if one person had it then you know, the whole line of zowie products must be defective.
A number of people just on this board have had issues with the scrollwheel on the FK1. Unless you're saying we're all lying. rolleyes.gif
post #79 of 2765
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Originally Posted by a_ak57 View Post

A number of people just on this board have had issues with the scrollwheel on the FK1. Unless you're saying we're all lying. rolleyes.gif

yeah and a number of people on here havent had issues either, probably more so, so we must be liars too. rolleyes.gif

please.
post #80 of 2765
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Originally Posted by discoprince View Post


yeah i mean, are you not reading what im writing?

yeah but they arent failing at what they do.

 

I clearly explained how they were failing.

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